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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Benderbrau » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:12 pm

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Now that is a selling point for me. I enjoyed the old Ben 10 show and still enjoy the present one too.

Ben 10 is a quality series no doubt
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby habitual » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:33 pm

Benderbrau wrote:God I love the artwork in this show. Such great shading and the proportions are better then Spectacular Spider-Man but god please stop with all the imaginary cut scenes! Even the funny ones like "Did anyone else see this ending with me getting a jetpack?" are just too much.
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Why can't they just make Spidey funny period? Why do they need visual cutscenes to make them be funny?


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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Herald » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:35 pm

Definitely more Deadpool than Spidey.
Other than that, not bad.
Though I agree that I'd rather have Spectacular Spider-Man instead.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:43 pm

I like this show.

As for being annoyed with the light-heartedness/humor....it IS a Disney show aimed at kids so I think they're doing a great job catering to their demographic. I seriously doubt the producers factored in the 20+ crowd when making each ep.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Rockman » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:43 pm

But compare it to the Avengers or Young Justice.

Shows for kids that aren't mind numbingly stupid.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Benderbrau » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:45 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:I like this show.

As for being annoyed with the light-heartedness/humor....it IS a Disney show aimed at kids so I think they're doing a great job catering to their demographic. I seriously doubt the producers factored in the 20+ crowd when making each ep.

1. Avenger EMH is a Disney show too
2. No one said it wasn't funny. Just that the 4th wall gag is over played
3. How can they not factor in the 20+ crowd when the show is spun off of a comic book title that carried an adult rating?
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:48 pm

Rockman wrote:But compare it to the Avengers or Young Justice.

Shows for kids that aren't mind numbingly stupid.


This show is not mind numbingly stupid just becauase you say so, they decided to make it as fun as they could with the inner monologue. And it's a nice change from a kid-lite straight-from-the-books adaptions.

And for whatever reason Young Justice comes off like its catered to the tween crowd with the sappy romance sublots and melodrama.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Cat-Scratch » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:49 pm

Why do I read this thread and think "Why don't they just make a Deadpool show to play late at night?"
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Rockman » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:51 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
This show is not mind numbingly stupid just becauase you say so, they decided to make it as fun as they could with the inner monologue. And it's a nice change from a kid-lite straight-from-the-books adaptions.

And for whatever reason Young Justice comes off like its catered to the tween crowd with the sappy romance sublots and melodrama.


I really hate those cut a way gags, it feels like I'm watching a slightly less stupid version of the Family Guy.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:53 pm

Benderbrau wrote:1. Avenger EMH is a Disney show too
2. No one said it wasn't funny. Just that the 4th wall gag is over played
3. How can they not factor in the 20+ crowd when the show is spun off of a comic book title that carried an adult rating?


1. When that show started it was just as campy as this and it took a while to hit the ground running. It wasn't until the Wonder Man story and Ultron being seeded everywhere that it ramped up.

2. It's got its moments and some where it flounders. But it's fun in an over-the-top kind of way.

3. Because that kind of marketing is why comic sales are in the shitter and our demographic is carrying the comic industry on its back. It's got a bit of everyone in that regard.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:55 pm

Rockman wrote:
I really hate those cut a way gags, it feels like I'm watching a much less stupid version of the Family Guy.


Fixed. The Family guy gags are random pop culture fanservice...like Soundwave taking the Homer Simpson guy's job in oe of the early eps. These ones at least come out of the scenes themselves.

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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Strict31 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:11 am

I'm not minding the fourth wall breaking so much as I am disliking the base concept.

The SHIELD thing seems too contrived. They just pull these kids the fuck out of school for something as pointless as training? They don't have weekend hours at the Helicarrier? I wouldn't have minded seeing folks like Luke and Danny and Nova and White Panther showing up as semi-regular guest stars. But throwing SHIELD into the mix seems a bit overbearing for a show that is ultimately supposed to be about Spider-Man.

I don't mind the humor and shit. I don't even mind the sight-gags so much. But it feels like Nick Fury, SHIELD and the junior Avengers are a more important part of Spidey's life than his friends or Aunt May or any of the normal shit that made Spider-Man so appealing back in the day. There's no Spider-Man series in which Luke Cage and Nova should get more screen time than MJ or Harry or even goddamn JJJ.

At the same time, it's only three episodes in.. Maybe this shit won't dominate the series. But right now, it's kinda looking like Spider-Man and (More of) his Amazing Friends.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby rdrsfn82 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:44 am

fieldy snuts wrote:
1. When that show started it was just as campy as this and it took a while to hit the ground running. It wasn't until the Wonder Man story and Ultron being seeded everywhere that it ramped up.

2. It's got its moments and some where it flounders. But it's fun in an over-the-top kind of way.

3. Because that kind of marketing is why comic sales are in the shitter and our demographic is carrying the comic industry on its back. It's got a bit of everyone in that regard.


So which part of the beginning of Avengers was lighthearted? The whole Raft breakout, Hulk's blood being stolen by a hero and given to former Nazis as she turns out to be a traitor, Cap getting saved by a dying Bucky, Gravitron, Ulton showing up in the prison, Loki plotting everything, Hank showing doubts about what they are doing and wanting to be non-violent, or any of the other stuff from the first online episodes and the premiere all seemed much more serious in tone than what we've seen on Spider-Man and it certainly hit the ground running laying the foundations for Kang, Ultron, the Masters of Evil, Loki's big plot, the rise of HYDRA, and pretty much every other major plot of the first season.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Benderbrau » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:42 pm

Ultimate Spider-Man was kinda meh. Wasn't better or worse per say. Just not much of an improvement. And I hope this Iron Man isn't what we can expect from future Disney Avengers cartoons because it wasn't very good. I accept that animating something as busy as his armor is difficult but still it just looked all disjointed and the proportions were all over the place. Clearly they should have borrowed the CGI models from the IM anime show. Sure the series sucked but that armor was the tits.
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Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon

Postby Chris » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:36 pm

I hate how idiotic Pete is in the new Spider-Man cartoon.
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