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by **outsider** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:38 pm

Breaking Bad, Season 4, Disc 1

by **spidertour02** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:08 am

GHERU wrote:2nd

+1

by **oogy** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:19 pm

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what's going on with that either.

by **nietoperz** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:26 pm

I assume the DVD in question is Ghost Rider, as that's the character under dispute. I won't be waiting for the DVD as I have no interest in seeing the film at all.

by **MistaT** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:26 pm

David Bird wants you to boycott Marvel movies.

by **David Bird** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:31 pm

Not boycott altogether. Marvel has won their lawsuit with Gary Friedrich. Not only has he no rights to a character he created--no surprise there--but he has to pay them $17,000.00 for money he's made over the years doing art at conventions. That's the bit that has everyone upset. Steve Niles has even started a paypal account to help him raise the funds. The guy is almost 70 and like so many other comics veterans he hasn't enough for a secure retirement as it is.

Fanboys complain all the time so to send them a message they'll actually get, I am asking people to deny them the opening weekends Hollywood puts so much stock in. Wait for the DVD and, if you can't do that, don't go on the opening weekends.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:36 pm

He's barely published a single comic since the late '70s, when he was still a young man.

by **Eli Katz** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:39 pm

Fuck Marvel. I won't buy their shit anymore.

by **Lord Simian** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:12 pm

David Bird wrote:Not boycott altogether. Marvel has won their lawsuit with Gary Friedrich. Not only has he no rights to a character he created--no surprise there--but he has to pay them $17,000.00 for money he's made over the years doing art at conventions. That's the bit that has everyone upset. Steve Niles has even started a paypal account to help him raise the funds. The guy is almost 70 and like so many other comics veterans he hasn't enough for a secure retirement as it is.

Fanboys complain all the time so to send them a message they'll actually get, I am asking people to deny them the opening weekends Hollywood puts so much stock in. Wait for the DVD and, if you can't do that, don't go on the opening weekends.

That's called work-for-hire, and has been standard practice in comics since Oog first drew "Horse-On-Wall-Man" on the cave wall for Paleolithic Comics...

And he wasn't "doing art at conventions", he's a writer. As I understand it, and I could be misinformed, he was selling prints of the cover of Ghost Rider's first appearance. That's a bit different from "doing art", even if he HAD permission from the guy who actually drew that cover. Not that it'd matter, cause Mike Ploog also, most likely, did that cover under work-for-hire, no?

I'm not saying I agree wholeheartedly with the court's ruling, but the recent "Marvel is the Antichrist!" sentiment on the net is weird, to me...

I mean, over this issue. I understand fanboys NORMALLY feeling Marvel is the Antichrist.

by **e_galston** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:17 pm

Lord Simian wrote:
That's called work-for-hire, and has been standard practice in comics since Oog first drew "Horse-On-Wall-Man" on the cave wall for Paleolithic Comics...

And he wasn't "doing art at conventions", he's a writer. As I understand it, and I could be misinformed, he was selling prints of the cover of Ghost Rider's first appearance. That's a bit different from "doing art", even if he HAD permission from the guy who actually drew that cover. Not that it'd matter, cause Mike Ploog also, most likely, did that cover under work-for-hire, no?

I'm not saying I agree wholeheartedly with the court's ruling, but the recent "Marvel is the Antichrist!" sentiment on the net is weird, to me...

I mean, over this issue. I understand fanboys NORMALLY feeling Marvel is the Antichrist.

yeah i get why he lost the case, and why he got the ruling he did. its a little different if say he was an artist drawing sketches, but he was mass producing prints of a cover he didn't draw. Which violates Marvels Copyright to the character.

by **Cat-Scratch** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:25 pm

Ghost Rider DVD?

I'll be waiting for the twofer pack in the 5 dollar bin at Wal-Mart. Maybe.

LS mostly covered it for otherwise for me.

by **bkthomson** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:21 pm

the 17K is pennies to Marvel but I think someone young gun got into a little tizzy and went after Friedrich based on the lawsuit. really I expect it to be dropped within a week or two as both sides cool their heads.

by **sdsichero** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:55 pm

bkthomson wrote:the 17K is pennies to Marvel but I think someone young gun got into a little tizzy and went after Friedrich based on the lawsuit. really I expect it to be dropped within a week or two as both sides cool their heads.

Haha in a dispute about Ghost Rider! Good one!