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Postby Derm » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:16 pm

GOSD wrote:The Donner cut also had a better scene where Lois figures out that Clark is Superman. :D

Not sure about better exactly, I seem to remember I thought she really never bothered trying any safer ways that she could have tested if he was superman.
It really made her look like a nutcase.
But they might have fixed that if they had the chance to make it at the time.

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Postby Timbales » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:11 pm

The scope and scale of the movie does not even begin to approach the comic.
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Postby Doc Jon » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:47 am

Timberoo wrote:The scope and scale of the movie does not even begin to approach the comic.


Which comic?

No movie can encompass 30 years of comics.
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Re: Watching X-Men again

Postby Zechs » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:24 am

jsalwen wrote:I can see that from the first film, but Mags takes apart his prison with a little ball of metal!

I think part of the problem is X3. I get the feeling Singer had a Xavier/Magneto showdown in the works, which was not done. When you look at the 3 'X' movies, the X-men never fought a fully powered Magneto.


Yeah instead they spent most of their budget in X-3 having Magneto use the freakin Golden Gate bridge as a weapon. Ok awesome as that was. I'd sacrifice it in a heartbeat if it got us more X-Men fighting Magneto other than the blink or you miss it fight that it was in X-3.
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Postby ThirtyFiveMinutesAgo » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:42 am

I felt X-Men was mediocre. When it came out, I tried to love it. Until X2 came out, I would have defended its quality. Unfortunately, I feel any character development was completely overshadowed by the weak action scenes and lack of dramatic tension.

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Postby Doc Jon » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:44 am

Zechs wrote:Yeah instead they spent most of their budget in X-3 having Magneto use the freakin Golden Gate bridge as a weapon. Ok awesome as that was. I'd sacrifice it in a heartbeat if it got us more X-Men fighting Magneto other than the blink or you miss it fight that it was in X-3.


Way too many stories in X-3 that made it a jumbled mess. The movie had decent moments, but it had no focus.

X1 and X2 both had tight storylines, focused character development, and knew where to spend its money.
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Postby Benderbrau » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:05 pm

jsalwen wrote:Way too many stories in X-3 that made it a jumbled mess. The movie had decent moments, but it had no focus.

X1 and X2 both had tight storylines, focused character development, and knew where to spend its money.

Not to mention that by the time of the climatic battle at the end of X3 two of the lead heroes were dead, the third was on the wrong side and the fourth (Storm) never was developed enough for anyone to care about. That left the audience to root for Wolverine and a lot of second stringers like Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Beast, etc. Sure, if you knew the comics they held value to you but within the confines of the movie they had about as much value as Star Trek red shirts.
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Postby Beast » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:54 am

Greg wrote:Wish the franchise had more Cyclops, though. :(


I agree, it was sad what they did to him. ;_;
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Postby Jess Nukem » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:36 am

jsalwen wrote:Fanboys are so jaded nowadays that no movie can make them happy, unless it's a 12-part HBO miniseries where every bit of dialogue is taken from a comic, and they get a bunch of Oscar winning actors. But then again, that movie would be pretentious, and deserving of scorn. :P
Watchmen proved to me that by sticking too faithfully to the source material's dialogue can make the movie suck and awkward. It was like watching a Claremont comic come to life.

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