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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby covalesky » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:20 pm

Alchemic_Spider wrote:Let's face it. Going to college just puts people in more debt than they should be in and it doesn't ensure a good job like it use too. Does the way we pursue education have to change? The way companies higher employees? Should we go back to an apprenticeship with out having to focus on classes that most will never need nor use?


Over there perhaps, but here its not that expensive. I worked through mine, of course I had to tighten the belt a bit, well a lot, but here I am.

As for not ensuring a job, nowadays its the opposite, if you don't have a Bachelors or higher you're fucked for many professions.

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Cat-Scratch » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:22 pm

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Normally, I try not to be a grammar nazi, but in this context, it's too funny not to say.

Higher education at least teaches us the difference between "higher" and "hire". ;)


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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Lord Simian » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:24 pm

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I was posting from a phone! Give me a break. :smt102


Ah, say no more. My phone's autocorrect is usually out solely to fuck me over, so I understand completely! :)
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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Alchemic_Spider » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:26 pm

Lord Simian wrote:
Ah, say no more. My phone's autocorrect is usually out solely to duck me over, so I understand completely! :)


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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Lord Simian » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:39 pm

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/auto correct'd


No, it's usually more insidious than that. Like the first week I had the new phone, and I sent a text to my boss jokingly blowing off something she said. So, I typed "Pfft!"

However, the son of a bitch phone, deciding that wasn't good enough to screw me over, actually sent "Orgy!"

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby nietoperz » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:40 pm

Lord Simian wrote:
No, it's usually more insidious than that. Like the first week I had the new phone, and I sent a text to my boss jokingly blowing off something she said. So, I typed "Pfft!"

However, the son of a bitch phone, deciding that wasn't good enough to screw me over, actually sent "Orgy!"

:smt013


That's your story and you're sticking to it, huh?
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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Lord Simian » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:41 pm

nietoperz wrote:
That's your story and you're sticking to it, huh?


That's the same thing the company "sensitivity trainer" said. :oops:

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby eltopo » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:46 pm

Benderbrau wrote:Yes. It's ridiculous that a lot of companies (not all but a lot) place more value on college degrees then on real world experience.

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby MrBlack » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:49 pm

College can be useful for narrowing down what you are interested in, but that's accomplished in the first two years. You can accomplish the same thing by getting an associates degree at a community college, followed by 1-2 year trade schools. There should still be a place for traditional colleges, but we need to do away with the myth that everyone should get a 4-year degree.

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Potter Who » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:43 pm

I think higher education is a very good thing, but there should be more emphasis on technical or vocational schools as a viable option. Like there is in other countries. Higher ed should for adults to figure out their career path AND make steps towards achieving it. Right now, at many schools for many students, it's just high school version 2.0.

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby CountD » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:45 pm

MrBlack wrote:College can be useful for narrowing down what you are interested in, but that's accomplished in the first two years. You can accomplish the same thing by getting an associates degree at a community college, followed by 1-2 year trade schools. There should still be a place for traditional colleges, but we need to do away with the myth that everyone should get a 4-year degree.


Job Corps? :lol:

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby AaronW » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:00 pm

Since business leaders in America love sending decent paying manufacturing and other labor jobs overseas isn't a college education mandatory since you are going to have to have some form of trained skills to land a job that isn't a service industry job? I was reading an article the other day saying a bachelors is almost like a high school diploma these days and people who want work better get that masters.

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby Lord Simian » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:04 pm

AaronW wrote:I was reading an article the other day saying a bachelors is almost like a high school diploma these days and people who want work better get that masters.


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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby False Prophet » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:04 pm

People should also stop picking crappy majors where the four-year completion of it amounts to no more than a half-year's worth of field work.

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Re: At what point will people just give up on higher learnin

Postby PDH » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:10 pm

People are not smart enough to understand the importance of higher education and the best way to deal with it until it's over and by then it's like, 'oh fuck, I'm a humanities graduate.'

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