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Strict31

Rain Partier

Postby Strict31 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:50 pm

Grayson wrote:
I thought Gravity was a very visually stunning film and that both Sandra Bullock and George Clooney did well in their roles but I can't really wrap my head around all of the awards buzz that it has received. Honestly, if I were to rate all 9 of the Oscar Nominees for Best Picture, I would put Gravity at the bottom in the number 9 spot. It was a really good movie but there were far better pictures released this year. Then again, that's just my personal opinion.


It was visually stunning, but we live in an era where visually stunning special effects are quite common in sci-fi movies. Are these effects more visually stunning than, say, Avengers? Or even Man of Steel, for that matter?

I don't think so. I think the beauty was in how the effects were used. "Visually stunning" is a phrase used so much that it loses its impact. But if you can create an effect that makes a member of the audience remember why they're afraid of extreme heights, well, then you're cooking with gas. If you can create an effect, no matter how simple or understated that confers a sense of crushing isolation or claustrophobia, then that's a worthy accomplishment.

I don't think we're really impressed with these vast panoramic views of the Earth or kick-ass space-station explosions. Not anymore.

But seeing Sandra Bullock strapped to the end of that space shuttle arm made me recall the same flutter in my gut the first time I saw actual video footage of actual astronauts strapped to the same actual contraption, a hundred miles above the actual Earth. Or that scene immediately after she is torn loose from the shuttle, when the camera pans around from her face to the inside of her helmet. When we literally see out of her eyes in a fairly seamless transition. That isolation felt tangible. Or even the next scene where she's just spinning deeper and deeper into darkness, with nothing but the suit lights to illuminate the scene. It made the stark reality of space...real.

These weren't visually spectacular effects. But they were among the most evocative effects in the movie. They don't require any flash or glitz to work. They don't even need Clooney's dialogue ham-fistedly reminding the audience why the view of the earth is beautiful.

And then, there are the effects that reveal character. Like when she grabs the fire extinguisher and uses it to attack the fire in the ISS without first thinking to brace herself. She's a total rookie in space, and despite having already gone through some harrowing experiences that would make the most steely-eyed missile-man shudder, she still makes rookie mistakes.

It's not unusual anymore to find great, flashy effects in a sci-fi movie these days. But all they're really good for usually is titillation. Cuaron is great at using very subtle special effects to help him reveal the story and the character and the mood, however. That's something that probably won't be recognized, though, because the eye tends to miss them, even if the brain does not.
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:15 pm

Strict31 wrote:
It was visually stunning, but we live in an era where visually stunning special effects are quite common in sci-fi movies. Are these effects more visually stunning than, say, Avengers? Or even Man of Steel, for that matter?

I don't think so. I think the beauty was in how the effects were used. "Visually stunning" is a phrase used so much that it loses its impact. But if you can create an effect that makes a member of the audience remember why they're afraid of extreme heights, well, then you're cooking with gas. If you can create an effect, no matter how simple or understated that confers a sense of crushing isolation or claustrophobia, then that's a worthy accomplishment.

I don't think we're really impressed with these vast panoramic views of the Earth or kick-ass space-station explosions. Not anymore.

But seeing Sandra Bullock strapped to the end of that space shuttle arm made me recall the same flutter in my gut the first time I saw actual video footage of actual astronauts strapped to the same actual contraption, a hundred miles above the actual Earth. Or that scene immediately after she is torn loose from the shuttle, when the camera pans around from her face to the inside of her helmet. When we literally see out of her eyes in a fairly seamless transition. That isolation felt tangible. Or even the next scene where she's just spinning deeper and deeper into darkness, with nothing but the suit lights to illuminate the scene. It made the stark reality of space...real.

These weren't visually spectacular effects. But they were among the most evocative effects in the movie. They don't require any flash or glitz to work. They don't even need Clooney's dialogue ham-fistedly reminding the audience why the view of the earth is beautiful.

And then, there are the effects that reveal character. Like when she grabs the fire extinguisher and uses it to attack the fire in the ISS without first thinking to brace herself. She's a total rookie in space, and despite having already gone through some harrowing experiences that would make the most steely-eyed missile-man shudder, she still makes rookie mistakes.

It's not unusual anymore to find great, flashy effects in a sci-fi movie these days. But all they're really good for usually is titillation. Cuaron is great at using very subtle special effects to help him reveal the story and the character and the mood, however. That's something that probably won't be recognized, though, because the eye tends to miss them, even if the brain does not.

So well said. I absolutely agree.
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BeyondDead

Whippersnapper

Postby BeyondDead » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:38 pm

Fun size via Netflix
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:48 am

Watched Thor the dark age, it was okay.
Watched runner, runner, who the fuck casts Ben Affleck as guy named Ivan?
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:09 am

thefourthman wrote:Watched Thor the dark age, it was okay.
Watched runner, runner, who the fuck casts Ben Affleck as guy named Ivan?

Is it as bad as I've heard?
Edit: Runner Runner
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:43 am

alaska1125 wrote:Is it as bad as I've heard?
Edit: Runner Runner

It was just uninteresting. It's on par with Killing Them Softly. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's still a bad movie.
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LobsterJ

Expert Post Whore

Postby LobsterJ » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:41 pm

The Place Beyond the Pines. Man, that was long and pointless. The trailer made it look good, but I guess that is the point of the trailer.
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:15 pm

LobsterJ wrote:The Place Beyond the Pines. Man, that was long and pointless. The trailer made it look good, but I guess that is the point of the trailer.

I liked it. It was a nice blend of artsy and crime. The last act was telegraphed, but other than that, I enjoyed it.
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Arion

Twenty-Something

Postby Arion » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:40 pm

Blue Jasmie
The Monuments Men
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oogy

Zombie Guard

Postby oogy » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:43 pm

I watched Troll Hunter last weekend. It really was "pretty damn spectacular."
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GiveWarAChance

PЦИKЧ ВЯЁ&#106

Postby GiveWarAChance » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:15 pm

Left Bank - Compared to Rosemary's Baby and Let the Right One In. Uhm, no.

Winters Bone - Pretty good.

Collision - I probably shouldn't have liked it as much as I did.
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Cernunnos

Swedish Pinata of Death

Postby Cernunnos » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:45 pm

Jackass Presents:Bad Grandpa and The Raid:Redemption
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Lord Ice

Motherfucker from Hell

Postby Lord Ice » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:27 pm

Let's Scare Jessica to Death- Because death might give her a personality. :smt005

The Shadow Returns- And this time, he brings Margo Lane along. :smt026
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:45 pm

Took the kids to Lego Movie this afternoon (2nd time)(this time in 3D which was a waste of an extra few bucks).
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LoganRSA

FROGMAN

Postby LoganRSA » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:35 am

Watched The Emperor's New Groove again this weekend. That is a damn funny movie, completely underrated. I wish Disney would do more like this.

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