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I would watch Avengers, any of the Iron man's, Thor, Cap, Spider-man 1 & 2, Amazing Spider-Man 1, any of the The Knight Trilogy, and probably the original TMNT, & the original Superman over sitting through MoS again.
Yes, I fully agree with the Shadow. X3 > MoS. At least that movie had Kelsey Grammer as the Beast and Vinny Jones as the Juggernaut. Least that the X-Men doing their job and try to stop Jean going postal on people.
There is NOTHING. NOTHING good with MoS. This was a movie that was supposed to set-up things. X3 has the crime that it was supposed to end things. Yes it ended things crappy, but it still did give us a few tiny great things we'll remember the movie for.
Ten years from now people will look at it and mock the living hell of how dreary and stupid it was. Yet, we'll remember X3 more than MoS and still bitch about it. Hell Amazing Spider-Man did a better job at redoing a character than MoS. Superman is not a hard character to nail. On TV he's done perfect.
Yet now, in his last two movies there just seems to be this Christ-like message we're supposed to be getting from Superman. WTF? So in the third movie is he supposed to die for our sins for unleashing Doomsday then on the third day in the JLA movie he shall rise again?
I'm sorry the movie failed to understand what Superman means. From the ground up. It really isn't hard. Just go the Grant Morrison approach:
No need for a NAME actor to play Jor-El and watch Krypton's death over and over again. Just skip to what we want to see Superman doing shit like this:
It's the entire point for the climax of Superman vs. the Elite. It's simple. It's an easy concept to get. Scott Lobdell even gets the concept, yet morons in Hollywood seem not too. Superman is the ideal man strives to be. If he breaks and does something. Well what's to say if he does it again? It isn't hard to not get the character. Smallville at the very least got it well perhaps too much with Clark Kent. But still did it nail the ending and point of Superman? HELL YES.
And even though I love Hans Zimmer and the score he did for MoS.. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING touches the John Williams theme. Anytime I hear that theme? I still get chills, and teary eyed with a big goofy smile. Few things in life can do that to me. Peter Cullen's Optimus Prime is the other.. I have always said Superman needs to punch something, and he did that in the movie. But he also needs to do a few other things which MoS failed epicly at.
MoS was a horrible movie and if there's a sequel how do you top it? You can't use Bizarro, Metallo, Parasite, Toyman, or Silver Banshee because those are the "weak" villains now. You have to use Doomsday, Mongul, and Brainiac but you HAVE to do Lex Luthor cause he's Lex Luthor, but after Zod doesn't he seem pointless now? After such a alien threat we go from epic cosmic to small human threats? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
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Ntikrst wrote: Nope, I just voted so it must be someone else.
Between Whedon's Banal Buffy Banter, RDJ's one-note performance as RDJ, pedestrian pacing, lack of a viable antagonist, abundance of talking head overacting and contrived plot resolution, Avengers is barely in second place.
I mean c'mon, if Dr. Selvig hadn't conveniently built a backdoor security override feature despite being subjugated by a god and told Black Widow about it right at the last minute, then the Avengers wouldn't have been able to close the portal or stop the invasion.
I would have thought they would take someone like Captain America... a paragon of virtue, truth, justice and mom's apple pie... and just have him snap some necks.
Zechs wrote:Yes, I fully agree with the Shadow. X3 > MoS.
Your dollar is in the mail.
Zechs wrote:MoS was a horrible movie and if there's a sequel how do you top it? You can't use Bizarro, Metallo, Parasite, Toyman, or Silver Banshee because those are the "weak" villains now. You have to use Doomsday, Mongul, and Brainiac but you HAVE to do Lex Luthor cause he's Lex Luthor, but after Zod doesn't he seem pointless now? After such a alien threat we go from epic cosmic to small human threats? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
On the plus side it wile a shorter movie.
Superman now knows if he's evenly matched or worse he just has to kill the bad guy.