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[Spidey-Man]

pride in sexuality is kinda silly isn't it?

I mean, it just is. If its natural and everyone is the same and all that, what is there to be proud of? Just because you're not ashamed doesn't mean you have to be proud. It seems to me people should strive for it to be just is, rather than pride. like having brown hair.

or say being bald. A lot of people are ashamed they are bald in a sense. embarrassed. but should it really be a source of pride? it should just be.

are you proud of being a heterosexual?

[nietoperz]

pride in sexuality is kinda silly isn't it?

I mean, it just is. If its natural and everyone is the same and all that, what is there to be proud of? Just because you're not ashamed doesn't mean you have to be proud. It seems to me people should strive for it to be just is, rather than pride. like having brown hair.

or say being bald. A lot of people are ashamed they are bald in a sense. embarrassed. but should it really be a source of pride? it should just be.

are you proud of being a heterosexual?

The difference is that straight people have not been historically stigmatised, bullied, beaten, jailed and murdered simply because of their sexuality. Gays have, and as such a vocal sense of pride - or even defiance - is more than appropriate.

[Cat-Scratch]

It's not even just paranoia. There's been out actors who have mentioned that coming out lessens their chances for certain roles and how they can be marketed. A lot of celebs that have been coming out have pretty much been breaking that barrier. There's a crap ton of stuff/politics that happens behind the scenes when it comes to casting for projects. One's "outness" tends to play a part whether you see it or not.

That's still paranoia given the lack of evidence. It's no different then claiming to be turned away from jobs for your gender or your race.

Politics, yeah that's something. Social views as well, but what industry/workplace doesn't have that going on.

Note, you still keeping pointing to perceptions yet not any evidence as there was back around 20 years ago or more for this. The stigma is gone, only people who think it's a factor, makes it a factor. That and the remaining small minded bigots.

[avengingtitan]

In other news water is wet.

I couldnt care less who someone fucks as long as the person they're fucking is over 18.

[fieldy snuts]

Hadn't he come out years ago? I remember an old interview when White Collar started where they mentioned it.

[Benderbrau]

Hadn't he come out years ago? I remember an old interview when White Collar started where they mentioned it.

No. He was asked but essentially deflected the question:

When asked about media reports regarding his sexual orientation, Bomer stated, "I don't care about that at all. I'm completely happy and fulfilled in my personal life." He declined to elaborate further, stating, "I have a network and a show riding on my shoulders," referring to his starring role on USA's White Collar.

[Benderbrau]

He was in the final running with Brandon Routh and got paid quite a bit for WB to keep the option until they made the final casting decision.

Actually IIRC he was Brett Ratner's choice but when Ratner left and Singer took over Singer cast Routh instead.

[Benderbrau]

That's cause singer casts movies as if he's casting possible dates.

Because no heterosexual director ever makes casting choices based on who they think is attractive. Who did Steven Spielberg marry again? Oh that's right...

Besides if what you're saying was true then Singer would have cast Bomer who is gay instead of Routh who isn't

[Doc Jon]

That's still paranoia given the lack of evidence. It's no different then claiming to be turned away from jobs for your gender or your race.

Politics, yeah that's something. Social views as well, but what industry/workplace doesn't have that going on.

Note, you still keeping pointing to perceptions yet not any evidence as there was back around 20 years ago or more for this. The stigma is gone, only people who think it's a factor, makes it a factor. That and the remaining small minded bigots.

Isn't it a little odd to ask for evidence over this?

I mean, it may be "well-known" in Hollywood circles that a relative unknown will have a harder time if they are out of the closet. I don't know, but it's not something that one can generally prove, rather an undercurrent that exists.

FOr example, you can say that the military is tolerant of soldiers who come out of the closet, but let's be honest, do you really not think there are difficulties with doing so.

Or let's look at sports. Why do so few pro-athletes come out of the closet during their playing careers. The number can probably be counted on one hand. Are you telling me there are no homosexuals in pro sports? Perhaps it is a perceived notion that they will be treated differently or ostracized. Again, very difficult to prove but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Doc Jon]

Because no heterosexual director ever makes casting choices based on who they think is attractive. Who did Steven Spielberg marry again? Oh that's right...

Besides if what you're saying was true then Singer would have cast Bomer who is gay instead of Routh who isn't

How dare you criticize Michael Bay?! HOW DARE YOU?!

[Timbales]

If being openly gay in in the entertainment business is no big deal, there wouldn't be tons of gay Sulu jokes and people calling Sulu gay because the actor is.

[Benderbrau]

Matt Bomer and Partner Make Red Carpet Debut

Yikes

[GOSD]

Bender's man crush.

[Benderbrau]

Bender's man crush.

Jealous?

[GOSD]

Jealous?

Yes...