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America's Booming White Enclaves
By Randy James Monday, Oct. 12, 2009


Traveling some 27,000 miles, African-American journalist Rich Benjamin roamed the U.S. from 2007 to 2009 exploring a major demographic shift that is attracting remarkably little attention — the flight of white residents from cities and integrated suburbs into cloistered, racially homogeneous enclaves. Tidy communities such as St. George, Utah, and Coeur d'Alene, Idaho — places Benjamin calls Whitopias — have grown at triple the rate of America's cities in recent years, raising troubling questions about the country's multiracial cohesion. The Stanford literature Ph.D. chronicled his adventure in a new book, Searching for Whitopia: An Improbable Journey to the Heart of White America, and spoke with TIME about what he found.

( Let's start with the title of your book — what is a Whitopia, exactly? It seems to be more than just a place where a lot of white people live.
Absolutely. A Whitopia has three things. First, it has posted more than 6% population growth since 2000. The second thing is that the majority of that growth — upwards of 90% — comes from white migrants. The third thing a Whitopia has is an ineffable social charm — a pleasant look and feel.

(Read "A Brief History of the NAACP.")

You say that many Whitopias offer a high quality of life and tend to perform well on those "Best Places to Live" lists that run in magazines. Do you think people are also drawn to these places specifically for their whiteness?

The major draw to Whitopia is that they're safe communities with good public schools and beautiful natural resources. Those qualities are subconsciously inseparable from race in many Americans' minds. For some people, race is a major role, and they said so to my face, but most of the Whitopians I encountered aren't intentionally practicing racial discrimination or self-segregation.

You say Whitopias can form even in the middle of diverse cities. How is that possible?
People don't realize that diversity isn't the same as integration. Blacks and whites in New York, where I live, are as segregated today as in 1910 [based on a sociologists' segregation index that measures how much contact people of differing races have with one another.]

What is the danger Whitopias pose to America as a whole?
You can call me old-fashioned, but I'm an integrationist. A democracy can't function at its optimum unless all members are integrated as full members.

A community full of like-minded people tends to enforce their own view of the world and close off opposing viewpoints. You can go to parties in New York City where the liberal smugness is intolerable because they're only hearing liberal viewpoints. On the Whitopian conservative side, it's spinning out of control. Look at the tea-bagger movement, where people are concerned their taxes are going to be wasted on minorities and illegal immigrants. Same with the movement that says [President] Obama is not a citizen. (See pictures of the tea-party protests.)

So how can we avoid the threat of the racial Balkanization that you describe?
We have a golden opportunity now. If I were an elected leader, I would say we have $800 billion in stimulus money that could rebuild America. We don't want to build communities in such a way that continues segregation. After World War II, President Eisenhower built highways and gave incentives to homeowners that gave white suburbanites an advantage. It left us with segregation for decades to come. Now we have an opportunity to get it right.

Are there any places that are getting it right now? That serve as a model for what you'd like to see?
There are communities around the country that get it right. Maplewood, N.J., has all the attributes of a Whitopia — high property values, great public schools, neighborliness — and yet it's also integrated and very diverse.

What surprised you about the communities you spent time in?
I was caught off-guard by the level of hostility to immigration reform in many of these communities and by how concerned many are by taxes — they believe taxes are too high. But I was also caught off-guard by how pleasant an experience it turned out to be, the personable warmth that greeted me in many cases.
And you were surprised by how much you enjoyed golf.

I was. [Laughs.] I feel like golf courses are the seductive emblem of Whitopia, and I didn't think I could get the essence of the place without learning myself. What I thought was a chore turned out to be a labor of love.

Tell me about the time you spent with white separatists in Idaho.
I just stumbled upon it. There's a religious sect called Christian Identity, which is a religious arm of the Aryan Nations. When I was in northern Idaho, I sat in on a three-day retreat and had some fascinating conversations. It was just a bizarre experience.

You, a black man, sat in on a white-separatist retreat. How did that go over?
They were curious and shocked they had found a black man on their premises. A lot of the members of the church took pains to explain to me the difference between white supremacy and white separatism. They said, "We don't think we're better than you; we just want to be separate from you."



We see that tendency to divide ourselves into identity groups in places all over the world, it seems, whether it's by race or religion or political view. Is it simply human nature?
I just reject that argument. People in Whitopia would say, "Hey, Rich, birds of a feather flock together. What's the big deal?" Our government and businesses across the country make decisions every day that perpetuate segregation. When you say homes need to be built on a 1-acre lot, when you say apartment renters can't live in your community — these concrete policies are what contribute to segregation. It's not in our biology, and it's not natural. We're a great country — we've overcome some thorny problems in our past, and we're better than that.

Problem? Myth? No big deal? Boring?

[Alchemic_Spider]

old news is old.

[Spidey-Man]

but it's only from yesterday

[john lewis hawk]

I don't think it's a big deal. Shit like this happens in every race and group.

[MoneyMelon]

I live in a white enclave and it's great.

[Alchemic_Spider]

I don't think it's a big deal. Shit like this happens in every race and group.

this.

[Spidey-Man]

Well the argument would be the whites, through laws and zoning and other factors, intentionally or unintentionally, keep the other races out. and when they do come in, the whites find a new place.

[Spidey-Man]

I live in a white enclave and it's great.

The south bronx isn't very white

[Thunderstorm]

I live in a white enclave and it's great.

Same. No crime and it's quiet.

[MoneyMelon]

The south bronx isn't very white

I don't live in the South Bronx.

The South Bronx is a place I go watch a baseball game and satisfy my liberal guilt by spending money at a bar in a black neighborhood

[john lewis hawk]

Well the argument would be the whites, through laws and zoning and other factors, intentionally or unintentionally, keep the other races out. and when they do come in, the whites find a new place.

So, basically it's a gay little white community until other races move in, the jackass whites move out, and the place stops sucking?

[nolanjwerner]

Is anyone surprised that white conservatives want to live in segregated communities?

[Spidey-Man]

I don't live in the South Bronx.

The South Bronx is a place I go watch a baseball game and satisfy my liberal guilt by spending money at a bar in a black neighborhood

i was just making a joke i forget where u live.

[Spidey-Man]

So, basically it's a gay little white community until other races move in, the jackass whites move out, and the place stops sucking?

no it's a richer upper middle class community

but its happened before with white working class and then white middle class communities.

when the whites move out, property values plummet (often) and the place goes to hell as the poorer people who move in don't keep it up. crime goes up. historically.

[MoneyMelon]

i was just making a joke i forget where u live.

Rockville Centre

White as snow.