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So who's getting Obamacare?

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What will you be doing once Obamacare takes effect?

I will be keeping my current plan.
23
64%
I will be signing up for a new plan under Obamacare.
6
17%
I will be losing my insurance.
1
3%
I don't have insurance now and will continue to not have it.
3
8%
I am a US Senator or major corporation so I am exempt.
3
8%
 
Total votes : 36

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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:25 pm

I'm not too worried. For better or worse, capitalism is about done. It's just that time of the cycle of civilization. A hundred years from now, people will marvel that anyone ever thought they could live under such an oppressive system. Just need to wait for the United States to collapse under the weight of its own bloated government and for people to rise up and burn corporations to the ground.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:33 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:I'm not too worried. For better or worse, capitalism is about done. It's just that time of the cycle of civilization. A hundred years from now, people will marvel that anyone ever thought they could live under such an oppressive system. Just need to wait for the United States to collapse under the weight of its own bloated government and for people to rise up and burn corporations to the ground.


Anarchist much?

What we need are alien overlords to come down and rule us. Complete with healthcare.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby habitual » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:46 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
Anarchist much?

What we need are alien overlords to come down and rule us. Complete with healthcare.


Was Gene Roddenberry an anarchist?

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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:49 pm

habitual wrote:
Was Gene Roddenberry an anarchist?

Hab


:shock:

You dare to evoke visions of the Federation?! WITH ME?!?!

That's dirty pool chum. I've not really hidden my desire for the world to become that utopia. As unreal as it is.

You know I cannot reply against that.

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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby achilles » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:02 pm

Alien overlords? Cat, there's no need to go so far to find someone with great talent, wit, charm, grace, good looks, and intelligence to rule over all of you peons, I'll be happy to take the job!

I will immediately reform society along certain lines. Blondes, brunettes, redheads, hot busty oiled Asian chicks, and pretty much any hot lady from any country in the world, all lined up to serve me directly. In leather bikinis.

Oh yeah, and the guys can go off and work somewhere else to keep the economy running or something. Whatever.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:37 pm

achilles wrote:Alien overlords? Cat, there's no need to go so far to find someone with great talent, wit, charm, grace, good looks, and intelligence to rule over all of you peons, I'll be happy to take the job!

I will immediately reform society along certain lines. Blondes, brunettes, redheads, hot busty oiled Asian chicks, and pretty much any hot lady from any country in the world, all lined up to serve me directly. In leather bikinis.

Oh yeah, and the guys can go off and work somewhere else to keep the economy running or something. Whatever.


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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby achilles » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:03 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
:shock:


It's my new theory of economics. It involves me having all the hot women. And the rest of you having none of them. Also, you all doing all the work for me, since I'll be otherwise occupied with important...matters of state.

I call it babenomics.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:05 pm

achilles wrote:
It's my new theory of economics. It involves me having all the hot women. And the rest of you having none of them. Also, you all doing all the work for me, since I'll be otherwise occupied with important...matters of state.

I call it babenomics.


Sounds like the present situation, except you have no babes.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby achilles » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:12 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
Sounds like the present situation, except you have no babes.


:smt013

Go ahead, mock me Cat, but when I rise into power, I will graciously gift you with all the world's Rosie O'Donnell types to show you what a good sport I am. I however will keep the supermodels and Playmates.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby GLX » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:15 pm

achilles wrote:
It's my new theory of economics. It involves me having all the hot women. And the rest of you having none of them. Also, you all doing all the work for me, since I'll be otherwise occupied with important...matters of state.

I call it babenomics.


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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby Spektre » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:58 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:I'm not too worried. For better or worse, capitalism is about done. It's just that time of the cycle of civilization. A hundred years from now, people will marvel that anyone ever thought they could live under such an oppressive system. Just need to wait for the United States to collapse under the weight of its own bloated government and for people to rise up and burn corporations to the ground.


LOL, study some history man...

When governments fall, commerce goes about its business, sometimes enjoying its freedom from regulation. Corporations don't burn to the ground nearly as often as government buildings do.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby Spektre » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:59 pm

habitual wrote:
Was Gene Roddenberry an anarchist?

Hab


There are plenty of examples of good ole capitalism in the Star Trek Universe.
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby Spektre » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:03 pm

achilles wrote:Alien overlords? Cat, there's no need to go so far to find someone with great talent, wit, charm, grace, good looks, and intelligence to rule over all of you peons, I'll be happy to take the job!

I will immediately reform society along certain lines. Blondes, brunettes, redheads, hot busty oiled Asian chicks, and pretty much any hot lady from any country in the world, all lined up to serve me directly. In leather bikinis.

Oh yeah, and the guys can go off and work somewhere else to keep the economy running or something. Whatever.


Don't be silly. It would follow from liberal theology that it is unfair that some females are better looking than others, and as such get much more sex and better looking men. It follows also then that they should be required to "spread the wealth around". Sex inequity is the defining challenge of our time!
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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:43 pm

Spektre wrote:
LOL, study some history man...

When governments fall, commerce goes about its business, sometimes enjoying its freedom from regulation. Corporations don't burn to the ground nearly as often as government buildings do.


I have studied history. Whenever wealth disparity reaches critical mass it gets redistributed one way or another, be it a jubilee or a guillotine. I'm just waiting to see which it ends up being. We're definitely at that point.

Though Americans are taught to believe capitalism is the natural order of things, the fact is that usury was considered highly immoral and sometimes illegal for most of history. Now it drives our entire economy, which itself is little more than an organized system of extracting wealth from the poor and giving it to the rich. That can't possibly go on forever.

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Re: So who's getting Obamacare?

Postby Spektre » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:43 am

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
I have studied history. Whenever wealth disparity reaches critical mass it gets redistributed one way or another, be it a jubilee or a guillotine. I'm just waiting to see which it ends up being. We're definitely at that point.

Though Americans are taught to believe capitalism is the natural order of things, the fact is that usury was considered highly immoral and sometimes illegal for most of history. Now it drives our entire economy, which itself is little more than an organized system of extracting wealth from the poor and giving it to the rich. That can't possibly go on forever.


Then you need new history books.

History is replete with empires with much greater wealth disparity that saw no revolution, no people rising up.

It's actually laughable that you think "income disparity" drives revolution. You could make a plausible case for abject poverty, but not income disparity. Revolutions are fought on hungry stomachs, not people longingly looking at someone else's Rolls Royce.

Have you seen America's poor? As a lot, they ain't hungry.
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