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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:43 pm

Chubbles wrote:
but why do you think the world should be held to OUR standards of living? Sounds like your projecting bc you think you know the best way to live.



:lol:

Sure

I think this

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is a shittier way to live than i do.

:shock: and guess what science does too! Since our life expectancy is about 30 yrs longer :lol:

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Chubbles » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:43 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:It’s a scumbag country. Likely nothing you can do about that but to pretend like they were all peaches and cream or peaceful before this of course not provoked occupation,


:lol:

Like one day we just picked Afghanistan of the list of shitty countries with shitty futures.

Justify murder all you want. At least nacmir is not supporting the killing of his own countrymen!


There will always be terrorists who do it for the pure intention of being evil. By occupying their nation we are breeding a new kind of hate where they hate us for infringing on their sovereignty and they think they are in the right bc we won't leave them the fuck alone.

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Chubbles » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:45 pm

Living a simple life like that is a better life than kicking old ladies out of their homes to make a living IMO

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:45 pm

Frankly, I don’t care what they want given that they gave aid and comfort to those who attacked us.

Everyone of them could drop dead tomorrow and it would be irrelevant to the world.

actually improve it.

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Rockman » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:45 pm

I believe that western culture is better than their culture.

I believe that a country which has a document like the constitution as the final word of our laws to better than a country that has some human who can change it on a whim.

I believe that a country where women have basic human rights and can walk around in public without a ninja suit on is better than one where they'll be stoned if they don't have a man present with them when they go out.

I believe a country where we can burn any book we want, we can burn our flag, we can let bigots march down the street even though we hate them all for the sake of freedom of speech is better than a country who doesn't.

So yes I believe that America, England, Canada and other countries that appreciate the idea of freedom on some level to be superior to a crap hole country over there where you can fatwah declared against you for writing a dirty book.

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Rockman » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:46 pm

Chubbles wrote:
There will always be terrorists who do it for the pure intention of being evil. By occupying their nation we are breeding a new kind of hate where they hate us for infringing on their sovereignty and they think they are in the right bc we won't leave them the fuck alone.


They attacked us first, so maybe in the future they'll learn not to start wars they don't have a hope of winning.

Japan learned that lesson, and we seem to be on pretty good terms with them.

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:47 pm

not england :drunk

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Nacmir » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:47 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:It’s a scumbag country. Likely nothing you can do about that but to pretend like they were all peaches and cream or peaceful before this of course not provoked occupation,


:lol:

Like one day we just picked Afghanistan of the list of shitty countries with shitty futures.

Justify murder all you want. At least nacmir is not supporting the killing of his own countrymen!



If you really believe that what Chubbles and what I do differ because he is american and I'm not, then I guess that "born equal" is not being applied. It's by no means different, ideas are country-less.
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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Rockman » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:51 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:not england :drunk


:lol:

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Chubbles » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:53 pm

Rockman wrote:
They attacked us first, so maybe in the future they'll learn not to start wars they don't have a hope of winning.

Japan learned that lesson, and we seem to be on pretty good terms with them.


Sure that line of thinking works until the guy attacking you has the bigger gun

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:54 pm

Nacmir wrote:

If you really believe that what Chubbles and what I do differ because he is american and I'm not, then I guess that "born equal" is not being applied. It's by no means different, ideas are country-less.


I would expect someone to care more if something bad was done to their "family' then someone else's family. is all i was saying

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Rockman » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:54 pm

Chubbles wrote:
Sure that line of thinking works until the guy attacking you has the bigger gun


Well we aren't running around picking wars with China here.

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby GOSD » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:55 pm

Nacmir wrote:
I'm from Chile.

Small countries will always be shit as long as big countries use them as chess pieces. Both Irak and Afghanistan current history is marked by cold war. That's the prime antecedent to the way they were. When in school, they tought us that antecedents to certains historical periods are quite important. And I mean it as being posting from a country and half-a-continent that suffered that too, cold was was a bloddy black hole for some historical processes.


I agree. Big countries like the U.S., Russia, China have always and will continue to use whatever they can to get what they want. It's been like that since the Roman Empire.

The Middle East is a mess. Always has been, always will be. Iraq/Iran have been fighting for millenia. Always will.

The U.S. should have never stayed in Iraq or Afghanistan. Never. The only way to "win" those wars was to annihilate the countries. Cities. Installations. Everything but we couldn't do that so those wars were lost before they even started.

We should just leave. This primitive people cannot be trusted with anything. Religion has already conquered and consumed them.

They need to be isolated and forgotten.

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Benderbrau » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:55 pm

Spidey-Man wrote: :shock: and guess what science does too! Since our life expectancy is about 30 yrs longer :lol:

I wonder why...

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Re: why were those Korans burned?

Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:56 pm

Chubbles wrote:
Sure that line of thinking works until the guy attacking you has the bigger gun

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