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[covalesky]

No one reads the writeups.


As I said at the end, Bubba is looking to do another list, but the subject and timeframe haven't been decided yet.

Actually I stopped at the thank yous, still its my bad.

[rdrsfn82]

Actually I stopped at the thank yous, still its my bad.

I didn't really care.

But yeah, I think Bubba is going to try to do something, a character centric list, once he gets a new computer.

[capjr]

This was great...great job guys!

[oogy]

That was interesting. I didn't submit a list for this one because I couldn't trim it down, but if I did some things that might have been on it:
Invincible probably would have been around 6 or 7
Johns' Flash run would have been around 3
Bone would have likely been 2nd place
Sandman would have been 1st place
Runaways would be in ther somewhere
Johns/Goyer's JSA
Simone's Birds of Prey
Simone's Secret Six
Hama's GI Joe
Y the Last Man
JMS/JRjr Amazing Spider-Man
Bru's Captain America
Gotham Central
Miller's Daredevil
Waid's Fantastic Four
Waid's Flash
Preacher
Johns' Hawkman
Mignola's Hellboy
Dixon's Nightwing
Ellis' Stormwatch into Authority
Ultimate Spider-Man
Claremont's Uncanny X-Men (wouldn't have split it up between Byrne & the others)
David's Young Justice

The reason that the Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four, Infantino's Flash, early ASM & other books of the sort aren't on there is simply because I either haven't read any of it, or enough to fill the number of issues required to constitute a run according to the rules.

[chap22]

top 10, part 1:

Preacher -- i will never read this; i've tried a couple of the trades, and literally can not read them; zero interest, i don't particularly like Dillon, i don't like Ennis's schtick, and i frankly do not think i'll ever enjoy this; it gets a shit-ton of of praise and blah blah blah, but i'd put Starman and Fables ahead of it, probably deserves high but not this high IMMO; and i damns ure refuse to believe it's as good as NTT, so FUCK YOU

Miller DD -- certain top 10 material (Born Again is among the 3 or 4 greatest superhero stories ever IMO), and might should've been top 5; as good as NTT and maybe better, but FUCK YOU anyway

Invincible -- top 10? better than Miller DD, Starman, Lee Spidey, and NTT? no, just...NO, YOU STUPID FUCKS! NOOOOOOOOOO! ugh, the idiocy of idiots never ceases to astound me...and i LIKE Invincible; but c'mon...top 10? not as good as NTT, so FUCK YOU

[BubbaKanoosh]

I didn't really care.

But yeah, I think Bubba is going to try to do something, a character centric list, once he gets a new computer.

Yeppers

[Stephen Day]

Yeppers

Cool.

[Greg]

That was a fun list to read. Great job, Bubba and team.

[Amoebas]

Preacher - On my short list. Today, I've grown so very tired of Ennis, but that doesn't make me forget how much I once did enjoy him and Preacher was just a riot from start to finish.

Daredevil - On my short list. Daredevil was just a typical super-hero book and I loved it. And then came #158 and some new artist was drawing it. It was good but not great. The book was bi-monthly back then and the new issues where mid to bottom of the stack. Then came that Hulk issue and everything changed. DD was suddenly a top of the stack series.

But then they gave Miller the writing chores. Hmmm - apart from Kirby and Ditko, there weren't many writer/artists (for a reason). But if I thought everything change with that Hulk issue, everything changed anew with #168.

There literally was nothing like it anywhere else. Dark and gritty entered the comics universe and it has yet to let go.

It's just too bad Born Again couldn't be added to this run.

Invincible - never read it. Even so, it's placement is mind boggling

Flash - A sentimental favorite as I knew Waid back then. Easily the best Flash run ever.

JLA - I knew it was going to do well, but I just never cared for it: He had to retcon J'Onn to make his story work, he created the Batgod, Superman became a planet juggler again, etc.

Thor - On my short list. Marvel in the 80's was just win win. Simonson took an unreadable Thor and INSTANTLY made it a classic. His writer/artist issues were incredible and his stories only became bigger when he dropped the art chores (given them to great Sal Buscema).

While I love this run it is only the second greatest Thor run. Kirby/Lee's epic from the 60's is far more beloved to me.

Sandman - Should have been top 3. It deserves ever accolade it has ever (or will ever) receive.

X-Men - Not a Morrison fan. Total meh book. Does not belong here in place of Byrne's FF, Wolfman/Perez Titans or Sandman.

Fantastic Four - My #1 pick. My introduction to comics was a three page reprint of the origin of the Fantastic four in Dynamite magazine. I had seen the old FF cartoon and even some FF's at a friend's house before, but there was something about Jack Kirby's art that just reached out from the page, took hold of me and for the last 36 years has yet to let go.

The teaming of Jack Kirby and Stan Lee was magic in a bottle. Every issue topped the next. And once Jack took over the majority of the plotting, it just got bigger and bigger. There will never be another run this creative again.

X-Men - While FF was better, I can certainly understand every vote this run received.
My first X-Men was #97 and it was just 'okay'. Cockrum's art was definitely the showcase over the writing (and later on finding out Cockrum's plotting had a lot to do with the book's growing popularity).

But then came John Byrne. X-Men went from good to OUTSTANDING in just a couple issues. The ride these two gave us was indeed worthy of all the love it still gets. Byrne's art and plots/co-plots just lifted this title to greatness.

[GLX]

Bubba is looking to do another list, but the subject and timeframe haven't been decided yet.

The dude needs a long break, before the next one. I imagine that these suckers a bitch to pull off.

Kudos to the folks that helped out.

[Log-Man]

Awesome list folks, thanks for everything!!

[Eli Katz]

Guys, especially rdrsfn82, Bubba, and misac, you did an amazing job here. This was easily the most fun I've had reading and reacting to a top list on this board. The outrageously inflated scores of recent runs, the wild omissions of classic runs, and some of the utter crap that made it on the list -- all of it made me laugh, cry, and fume simultaneously. The best runs, at least for me, is a much more engaging subject than the best characters. So I loved the hell out of this process.

I look forward to all the upcoming lists. I hope, at some point, we do a top writers and top artists list. I think that those lists could potentially inflict as much butthurt as the top-runs list. (The possibility of Bendis taking the top writers spot could push one Mississippian out of the Outhouse Asylum and into a real asylum.)

Again, great job. And thanks!

[Gladiator X]

Thanks to everyone involved in this.

Now in good tradition it's time to plot the next list possibilities.

Best characters created between 1968-1988?

That would be awesome!

Off the top o' my head without thinkin' too much....

Moon Knight
Ghost Rider
Werewolf By Night
Man-Thing
Daimon Hellstrom
Satana
Shang Chi: Master of Kunfg Fu
Deathlok
Killraven
Power Girl

[Gladiator X]

10. - Preacher (Ennis) - Never read it.


9. - Daredevil (Frank Miller) - Read these when they were coming out and they are still some of the best comics ever made.


8. - Invincible (Kirkman) - Never read it.

[Gladiator X]

7. - Flash (Mark Waid) - Read most of these. Decent enough comics but not nearly a "favorite" run.


6. - JLA (Morrison) - Best JLA book since the COIE and best one since it came out.