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by **habitual** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:47 pm

Punchy wrote:
No.

How about... the way he left The Twelve hanging, the way he left Supreme Power hanging, his general smug demeanour, his douchey willingness to tow the corporate line and condescend to both Alan Moore and the comics-reading public.

It doesn't make him any less correct about his viewpoint on Moore.

To be honest I always thought that Moore was more injured and upset about the fact that he felt he was lied to by people he considered his friends.

You'd probably get farther if you addressed that instead of taking pot shots at JMS, that is if you actually were trying to get anywhere at all.

Hab

by **Victorian Squid** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:47 pm

JMS is everything that's wrong with writers writing for the entertainment industry, comics and otherwise, these days so it's no wonder he'd weigh in. Plus he sucks balls.

by **alaska1125** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:48 pm

Punchy wrote:
No.

How about... the way he left The Twelve hanging, the way he left Supreme Power hanging, his general smug demeanour, his douchey willingness to tow the corporate line and condescend to both Alan Moore and the comics-reading public.

He's not wrong though.

by **habitual** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:49 pm

I loved Midnight Nation and Rising Stars.

He seems to be pretty common as far as the types of personalities that you run into doing what he does.

Hab

by **Victorian Squid** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:50 pm

Common, eh? :lol:

by **Chris** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:29 pm

JMS is a massive douche. Being a douche and being right in the quotes above have no connection, though.

by **Punchy** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:31 pm

alaska1125 wrote:
He's not wrong though.

I think he is.

by **habitual** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:31 pm

Fat Ollie Weeks wrote:Common, eh?

As in not unique, see PAD :lol:

Hab

by **Punchy** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:31 pm

Fat Ollie Weeks wrote:JMS is everything that's wrong with writers writing for the entertainment industry, comics and otherwise, these days so it's no wonder he'd weigh in. Plus he sucks balls.

Good to see us on the same page for once!

by **Victorian Squid** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:44 pm

habitual wrote:
As in not unique, see PAD

Hab

You...know I'm not a PAD fan, right?

You hurt a lot of feelings with that one, just not mine.

Punchy wrote:
Good to see us on the same page for once!

Alan Moore Defence Corps!

by **habitual** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:56 pm

Fat Ollie Weeks wrote:
You...know I'm not a PAD fan, right?

You hurt a lot of feelings with that one, just not mine.

Alan Moore Defence Corps!

I just think it's true.

Hab

by **Victorian Squid** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:06 pm

habitual wrote:

I just think it's true.

Hab

Me too, neither one of them is fit to comb the breadcrumbs from Alan Moore's Beard! Testify!

by **Arion** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:07 pm

It's a great interview.
I had no intentions of buying Before Watchmen anyway.

by **Miracloman** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:34 pm

habitual wrote:
It doesn't make him any less correct about his viewpoint on Moore.

To be honest I always thought that Moore was more injured and upset about the fact that he felt he was lied to by people he considered his friends.

You'd probably get farther if you addressed that instead of taking pot shots at JMS, that is if you actually were trying to get anywhere at all.

Hab

There is a lot about that history I don't know about and frankly at this point don't care too...but if I had to judge from the more recents accounts,most of Moore's indignation comes from the simple fact that he feels he had been had because he didn't read the fine print.
If that the case that is as much his own fault as much as DC.If he was that conceited as to believe that the same publisher that allegedly hoodwinked the creators of Superman would not dare to sucker him in light of his accomplishments he really got a rude awakening.Sure he have a reason to be mad at the guilty parties involved in the whole unpleasant business.But he seems that at one point he had convinced himself and others like minds that his mad on is some sort of moral crusade against the industry and not a case of hurt pride because he was made a fool for not bothering to read what he sign.
And mind you even if I am not that enamored of Watchmen,V For Vendetta and his more high concept work,I absolutely adore his Superman,Green Lantern,Swamp Thing and Supreme work.
So Moore and his supporters,just let it go.It's all ancient history now.He already had carved his place in the history of the industry,and nothing that DC may do with the character that by legitimate or ill ways they own it going to change it.

Phew! A longer post that I had intended to make.

by **alaska1125** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:12 am

You know what's awesome about all of this? If you feel it's blasphemous to touch anything Watchmen related, guess what? Don't. Buy. It. Hell, boycott DC for the rest of your lives for that matter. No one is shoving this down your throats. Moore is responsible for some of the most groundbreaking stuff I read in the day. That said, he comes off as an amazingly pretentious prick. If I weren't inticed by the sheer talent alone, I'd buy BW just to be that asshat fan that he disparages. I guess that doesn't elevate me to the elite intellectual status that is mandatory for being a Moore fan. I'll find time to weep later.