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Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:36 am

dairydead wrote:
if i recall, they mentioned earlier that they were planning to take her far away from earth.


Drop her on the Badoon homeworld and let the Phoenix do its thing there :P
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby Punchy » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:11 pm

This issue was everything I love about summer event comics. It was big, it was loud, and it really did feel like an event. Yes, it was basically just one big fight between the Avengers and the X-Men, but that’s the title of the series, and really, what more do you want? Jason Aaron’s descriptions of the various fights was probably a bit too portentous, but it worked, lending these fights a real gravity. This isn’t just your average superhero punch-up, this is all-out war, and it just brought a massive fanboy grin to my face. I loved how Aaron tried to give each fight an emotional hook, such as Wolverine fighting his own people, or Storm fighting her husband, Black Panther, or Quicksilver his dad. And if he couldn’t find a connection, he just made it as awesome as possible, such as Red Hulk Vs Colossus. It’s brilliant that JRjr is drawing this stuff, he’s drawn pretty much all of these characters before, so there’s a sense of familiarity in amongst the confusion of the newfound enmity. Of course there’s more here than just the fight, with Hope finally succumbing to the Phoenix and heading off, I wonder where she’s going? I had expressed doubts about how the baton-passing nature of this title would work, but so far it’s been good, Bendis handed over to Aaron pretty seamlessly. You could tell it was a different writer, but the tone of the story remained consistent. Who’s up next time? Brubaker? The only writer I really have any fears about is Hickman, he hasn’t written any of these characters much before apart from the Thing and Spider-Man as members of the FF, he’s the unknown quantity, but then that could be to his advantage.

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:45 am

Punchy wrote:If Marvel do a Universal reboot I will eat my hat, they'll never do it, ever.


You'd better be right, Punch. There's no reason to do it. They've done so much right over the past eight years...they need to not even consider that. DC was awful. Marvel has been good, at some points very good, for the last 8 years.
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:46 am

alaska1125 wrote:When Cap's sheild smacked Cyclops right in the visor? What I was waiting for. That. Right there.


This. A thousand times, this.
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby Amoebas » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:28 am

ElijahSnowFan wrote:
You'd better be right, Punch. There's no reason to do it. They've done so much right over the past eight years...they need to not even consider that. DC was awful. Marvel has been good, at some points very good, for the last 8 years.

and then here I am thinking the exact opposite where has been pretty much unreadable for the last eight years. A reboot would bring me back to a ton of books.

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:35 am

Amoebas wrote:and then here I am thinking the exact opposite where has been pretty much unreadable for the last eight years. A reboot would bring me back to a ton of books.


Ha! You know what? I honestly forget that many, many people haven't liked Marvel for a while now, with Civil War and the Dark Avengers/X-Men era. There was so much I found to read, with all the Marvel Cosmic stuff, as well as some other runs of things I liked, I had actually forgotten that Marvel was irritating a great many people.

You and I are usually locked in fairly closely on stuff, Amoebas...that hasn't really changed. It's more that I found Marvel's horrors to be fairly fixable...hell, now even Scarlet Witch is back on the board, which helps.
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby e_galston » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:37 am

dairydead wrote:
if i recall, they mentioned earlier that they were planning to take her far away from earth.


yeah BEFORE she had the phoenix force... clearly she has an aspect of it now, so i don't see how they could quarantine her..
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby IvCNuB4 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:22 am

Maybe Hank can come up with another one of his jazzy inhibitor-headbands to contain Hope's power like he tried to do for Jean :P

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby PDH » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:43 am

Wanda is to the Avengers what Phoenix is to the X-Men. I reckon it's going to come down to one vs the other in the end. If nothing else, I'm sure the Scarlet Witch will have a major role to play in the conclusion (reversing M-Day?)

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:52 am

I still se Cap as the villain. Fighting on the side of Fascism, as Cyclops said. Then again, there are a lot of pro-Fascists here so the support doesn't surprise me.

The Avengers and the X-Men face world-threatening events on a daily basis. Why should this one cause them to want to turn on one of their own? I see the reasoning behind wanting to "take Hope into protective custody." It's the same reasoning governments use to do things like lock up the Japanese in internment camps during WW2. It's for the greater good, they might be dangerous.

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby MistaT » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:55 am

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:I still se Cap as the villain. Fighting on the side of Fascism, as Cyclops said. Then again, there are a lot of pro-Fascists here so the support doesn't surprise me.

The Avengers and the X-Men face world-threatening events on a daily basis. Why should this one cause them to want to turn on one of their own? I see the reasoning behind wanting to "take Hope into protective custody." It's the same reasoning governments use to do things like lock up the Japanese in internment camps during WW2. It's for the greater good, they might be dangerous.


touche.

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby Chris » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:24 pm

Jude :lol:
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:56 pm

After the verbal beat down that Vision gave Wanda, I could see her joining the side of the X-men. Also as a way to say sorry for that M-Day thing.

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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby Chris » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:05 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:After the verbal beat down that Vision gave Wanda, I could see her joining the side of the X-men. Also as a way to say sorry for that M-Day thing.


Considering how she dreams of the world ending via the Phoenix, I think the chances are slim.

Plus, they've kind of set them up as comparable pieces on each side.. Hope/Phoenix is the X-Men's problem, Wanda is the Avengers.. putting them both on one side would kind of defeat the purpose of the event.
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Re: Avengers vs. X-Men #2 (spoilers)

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:08 pm

Well, looks like Iron Fist takes Hope under his wing.

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