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by **SuperginraiX** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:08 am

The President wrote:
Actually, I don't think that's true. Tony Stark used the Phoenix energy signature he found on Nova to map the Phoenix's trajectory. It stands to reason that he knew the path the Phoenix took went through existing planets.

Well, since Dark Phoenix was only known to kill one planet (and that was just a bi-product of super-nova'ing a sun), I think it would be a wild conjecture to assume that the Phoenix was killing inhabited planets on it's path. I can see Tony thinking that... and he'd be RIGHT but it's still all assumption without any proof and all based on the warnings of a random Human Rocket that no one has ever met before and made his debut Earth appearance (as a Nova) by smashing into New York City, right through the Chrysler Building, and I'm guessing causing more than just property damage.

I'd really like to know why the Phoenix Force is suddenly pretending it's Galactus. That seems to be a massive rewrite to what was previously a mostly benevolent Force that kind of stayed out of trouble and out of the spotlight. Hopefully that's explained somewhere during this event.

by **SuperginraiX** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:09 am

fieldy snuts wrote:Or it's your typical tie-in that gets ignored in the main story

Yep.

by **sdsichero** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:25 am

SuperginraiX wrote:Yep. It's quite possibly Captain America's worst plan ever. I can't think of any worse plans he's come up with and we're talking about a guy who abandoned his command position when Washington D.C. was under attack to do... no one really knows. But he DID jump out of a Quincarrier. That was probably fun.

(no, BK, I'm never letting this go. )

Maybe Wolverine will see Cap on his way down.

by **habitual** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:07 am

fieldy snuts wrote:
You have a selective memory. I had to dig out X-Force #13 but he told Hope

"they look at you as a Messiah, but you are not. You are the Adversary."

"You must be killed, to ensure that humanity lives. That is our purpose."

And finally "For if you survive, nothing survives."

Bastion just used the messiah title because that was the term used to describe her.

Bastion tells his whole team, Hodge, Stryker, Trask etc, that the mutant messiah has returned and must be killed in the first issue of second comind, so he considers her the mutant messiah:

Hab

by **fieldy snuts** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:14 am

habitual wrote:
Bastion tells his whole team, Hodge, Stryker, Trask etc, that the mutant messiah has returned and must be killed in the first issue of second comind, so he considers her the mutant messiah:

Hab

"Mutant Messiah" to me always seemed to be a title. One that was thrown around very freely in the X-Books. There's enough to go both ways.

by **habitual** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:17 am

fieldy snuts wrote:
"Mutant Messiah" to me always seemed to be a title. One that was thrown around very freely in the X-Books. There's enough to go both ways.

It was the whole theme to a three part series, so I think they threw it around for a reason.

And wasn't it revealed at the end of Cable that Bishop was actually the mutant responsible for annihilating a large portion of the planet?

Hab

by **fieldy snuts** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:29 am

habitual wrote:
It was the whole theme to a three part series, so I think they threw it around for a reason.

And wasn't it revealed at the end of Cable that Bishop was actually the mutant responsible for annihilating a large portion of the planet?

Hab

From what I remember Bishop annihilated the world that was a few millennia into the future, not the one he grew up in. Not the one he grew up hating Hope in.

by **habitual** » Thu May 03, 2012 4:38 am

fieldy snuts wrote:
From what I remember Bishop annihilated the world that was a few millennia into the future, not the one he grew up in. Not the one he grew up hating Hope in.

I just hope we get a decent ending here.

I really enjoyed the Cable series and hope they put some forethought into wherever we end up at the end of this.

Hab

by **bkthomson** » Thu May 03, 2012 8:27 am

The thought of tossing hope into space and have a Planet Hope storyline has some appeal.

by **Mr. Poolman** » Thu May 03, 2012 10:34 am

Great, the ONE fight that would have been cool (Magick vs Strange) was off-panel

And on Limbo, there was no way Strange laid a hand on Illyana.

by **Timbales** » Thu May 03, 2012 10:35 am

Wolverine is a douche.

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Thu May 03, 2012 11:15 am

Mr. Poolman wrote:Great, the ONE fight that would have been cool (Magick vs Strange) was off-panel

And on Limbo, there was no way Strange laid a hand on Illyana.

It'll probably be in Versus.

by **bkthomson** » Thu May 03, 2012 11:21 am

The President wrote:
It'll probably be in Versus.

Agree I think it is with the gambit cap fight.

by **Dragavon** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:50 pm

bkthomson wrote:The thought of tossing hope into space and have a Planet Hope storyline has some appeal.

The thought of tossing Hope into space and watching and pointing and laughing as she dies from the lack of oxygen has some appeal.

by **ThatGuyRoman** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:52 pm

Eventually this will all end with everyone teaming, kicking the Phoenix's ass and everyone being all "We're sorry, we were both wrong."

Just like every other vs. comic in the history of vs. comics.

TELL ME I'M WRONG!!!!