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by **Eli Katz** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:04 pm

It's a comic book; thus, you need to consider how the style of the art affects and shapes the tone of the story. That's what I meant.

I emphasized the dead guy not because it is the only example of zany art in the preview, but rather because it is so clearly on the zany side that no one could misinterpret the intent. But the way Robin sits in his seat, his pouty expressions, and the overall style of the illustrations suggest that little in the book should be taken too seriously.

That said, I think you can have stories that have both absurd and realistic elements in them. Those kinds of stories are often considered multilayered or multifaceted. Stories are not dummy variables that have to fit into one or the other category.

by **Herald** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:21 pm

Eli Katz wrote:It's a comic book; thus, you need to consider how the style of the art affects and shapes the tone of the story. That's what I meant. I emphasized the dead guy not because it is the only example of zany art in the preview, but rather because it is so clearly on the zany side that no one could misinterpret the intent. But the way Robin sits in his seat, his pouty expressions, and the overall style of the illustrations suggest that little in the book should be taken too seriously.

Frankly, DC is good nowadays at getting creators who aren't that good for the projects they're undertaking. Some artists in particular can't properly express all the parts of a story. As someone mentioned somewhere about Jim Lee and his Justice League run, he does "Big and Loud Action!" well enough, but quiet moments just aren't his bag, man. I'd say this Batman, Inc. artist, Chris Burnham, can't do un-cartoony characters. Frankly, his art -- particularly Damien -- looks halfway towards that of Grant's old pal Frank Quitely, whose characters always look constipated. Talk about not being able to take someone's art seriously! But we ARE supposed to take Quitely-drawn stories seriously, in spite of everyone needing to drop a load ASAP. And the same goes in this story, when things aren't "darkly comical".

So basically, I'm still not convinced by the "Zany art!" excuse.

That said, I think you can have stories that have both absurd and realistic elements in them.

But not in THIS case, apparently.

Everything in THIS particular story MUST be one big howl-inducing joke from start to finish, because of the art. :roll:

by **mrorangesoda** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:27 pm

ITT Eli Katz tries to rationally talk to Herald :lol:

by **Eli Katz** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:29 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:ITT Eli Katz tries to rationally talk to Herald

I've decided to give up.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:30 pm

Herald wrote:
I find it funny that you aren't addressing any of the issues with Damien that I brought up.

"Other than that unfortunate incident, how did you like THE PLAY, Mrs. Lincoln??"

I haven't clicked the preview. All I am saying is, your posts (or rants if you ask some) are far more "fanboy" then anything Eli posted.

It's very hypocritical.

by **mrorangesoda** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:32 pm

Eli Katz wrote:I've decided to give up.

One of Us. One of Us...

by **Herald** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:36 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:
I haven't clicked the preview. All I am saying is, your posts (or rants if you ask some) are far more "fanboy" then anything Eli posted.

It's very hypocritical.

Not at all, Alice:

"We're ALL mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
You MUST be [mad], or you wouldn't have come here."

by **Herald** » Mon May 21, 2012 6:39 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:ITT Eli Katz tries to rationally talk to Herald

Oh, we are the Buddy Bears!
We never have a fight!
Anyone who disagrees
Is NEVER, EVER right!!

If you have a point of view,
Then keep it out of sight!!
Oh, we are the Buddy Bears!
We never have a fight!

:roll:

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Mon May 21, 2012 9:43 pm

Herald wrote:
Not at all, Alice:

"We're ALL mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
You MUST be [mad], or you wouldn't have come here."

Ok what?

by **Herald** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:01 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:
Ok what?

Excerpt from Alice in Wonderland:

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.

"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.

"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."

Welcome to Wonderland.
Hope you survive the experience! :twisted:

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:08 pm

Oh. Gotcha.

You're still a hypocrite though.

by **Herald** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:20 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:Oh. Gotcha.

You're still a hypocrite though.

Nope.
I completely admit to being a fanboy as well.
Annnnnd... LOVING IT.

You wouldn't stay here if you weren't one!! :-D

Never forget:
"We're ALL mad here. I'M mad. YOU'RE mad.
You MUST be, or you wouldn't have come here." :twisted:

by **Cat-Scratch** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:43 pm

Herald wrote:
Nope.
I completely admit to being a fanboy as well.
Annnnnd... LOVING IT.

You wouldn't stay here if you weren't one!!

Never forget:
"We're ALL mad here. I'M mad. YOU'RE mad.
You MUST be, or you wouldn't have come here."

Yeah, crazy plea.... *cough*bullshit!*cough*

by **Herald** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:47 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
Yeah, crazy plea.... *cough*bullshit!*cough*

Nope. I plead guilty to being a fanboy, as does EVERY person here with even a smidgen of self-awareness. That includes YOU, Chesh-- I mean, TsundereCat.

Never forget:

by **Cat-Scratch** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:51 pm

Herald wrote:
Nope. I plead guilty to being a fanboy, as does EVERY person here with even a smidgen of self-awareness. That includes YOU, TsundereCat.

Never forget:

I am not tsundere.