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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Victorian Squid » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:33 pm

Brilliant way to make Batman look like an idiot.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:39 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:IGN's paid off Batman review:

The conclusion to Death of the Family in Batman #17 is the very reason that we love superhero comics.

+Gruesome and absolutely beautiful artwork.
+Delivers on the hype while defying expectations.
+Redefines the Joker and his relationship to Batman.
+Establishes an alluring new status quo.
+Brilliant exploration of Batman’s motives.

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CBR mods closedthis thread due to the rating 1 aka poor was winning by 39%.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:44 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:IGN's paid off Batman review:

The conclusion to Death of the Family in Batman #17 is the very reason that we love superhero comics.

+Gruesome and absolutely beautiful artwork.
+Delivers on the hype while defying expectations.
+Redefines the Joker and his relationship to Batman.
+Establishes an alluring new status quo.
+Brilliant exploration of Batman’s motives.

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CBR and the LCS I go too (Graham Crackers) all gave the issue a perfect score. Best review as this guy's so perfectly titled too:

http://comicsastonish.com/2013/02/12/batman-is-stupid/
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Grayson » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:47 pm

Zechs wrote:CBR mods closedthis thread due to the rating 1 aka poor was winning by 39%.


I kinda feel like we need to have a poll now. Curious to see what type of rating this issue would get here at the Outhouse.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby IvCNuB4 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:23 pm

Zechs wrote:

CBR mods closedthis thread due to the rating 1 aka poor was winning by 39%.


Nice way to stir the pot, Zechs. :lol: They closed it because of the abnormal voting frequency spikes and suspected that some bitter fan-boys were creating fake accounts to pad the votes.

You know, somewhat sinilar to when there's conveniently an 11th hour voting change that manages to sway The Moment Of The Week voting towards what you want to win :P
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:36 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:
Nice way to stir the pot, Zechs. :lol: They closed it because of the abnormal voting frequency spikes and suspected that some bitter fan-boys were creating fake accounts to pad the votes.

You know, somewhat sinilar to when there's conveniently an 11th hour voting change that manages to sway The Moment Of The Week voting towards what you want to win :P



I remember that, he did it to beat my nominated moment that he hated :lol:

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:26 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:
Nice way to stir the pot, Zechs. :lol: They closed it because of the abnormal voting frequency spikes and suspected that some bitter fan-boys were creating fake accounts to pad the votes.

You know, somewhat sinilar to when there's conveniently an 11th hour voting change that manages to sway The Moment Of The Week voting towards what you want to win :P


What? I have no idea what you mean. It plainly states in the rules moments nominated from Batgirl vol. 4 lose by default due to readers who read it should be embarrassed at actually putting good money on a book that's horrible. :-D

The new one isn't so bad either.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/sh ... mily-redux

Tsk tsk... two votes are a perfect ten? Obviously aliases of Didio and Harras.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:29 pm

fieldy RICHARDS wrote:

I remember that, he did it to beat my nominated moment that he hated :lol:



I did nothing of the sort. I have no aliases. What you think I suddenly put to speed dial the way people vote? I am totally innocent of whatever accusations that you and IvCNuB4 are making of me. I am an innocent individual who is being targeted by pro-Nu52 fanboys.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:49 pm

Zechs wrote:

I did nothing of the sort. I have no aliases. What you think I suddenly put to speed dial the way people vote? I am totally innocent of whatever accusations that you and IvCNuB4 are making of me. I am an innocent individual who is being targeted by pro-Nu52 fanboys.


Me? I think DC plain sucks and has for years :lol:

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:51 pm

fieldy RICHARDS wrote:
Me? I think DC plain sucks and has for years :lol:


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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby HNutz » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:39 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:IGN's paid off Batman review:

The conclusion to Death of the Family in Batman #17 is the very reason that we love superhero comics.

+Gruesome and absolutely beautiful artwork.


I'll give them that.

+Delivers on the hype while defying expectations.


Debatable, to say the least.

+Redefines the Joker and his relationship to Batman.


Not so much.

+Establishes an alluring new status quo.


"Alluring"? Yeah, no.
It's "New" that the family is annoyed with Bruce? Just like they were in, say, "Bruce Wayne, Murderer"? Nah.

[+Brilliant exploration of Batman’s motives.

Not so much.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby HNutz » Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:01 pm

Can someone tell me, if Joker didn't really know Batman's secret, how did he get into the cave?

The bug that may or may not have existed?

I dunno...

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:08 pm

HNutz wrote:Can someone tell me, if Joker didn't really know Batman's secret, how did he get into the cave?

The bug that may or may not have existed?

I dunno...


BINGO. Or target Alfred to begin with?
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby HNutz » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:55 pm

Zechs wrote:
BINGO. Or target Alfred to begin with?


That one kinda works, with Bruce Wayne's involvement with Batman Inc. If that's public knowledge, that is.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Jackofhearts » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:17 pm

Overall, "Death In The Family" was nothing more than your typical Batman vs Joker storyline. Guys like Dennis O Neil, Alan Grant, Chuck Dixon and Gerry Conway managed to have taken the Batman vs Joker concept and raise the bar with it and despite all of the hype and praise that various other comic book websites are giving it, Snyder has yet to come even remotely close to reaching that bar, let alone exceeding it on any level. The reasoning behind the mutilation of the Joker's face was lame. All of the suspense being built up in regards to what the Joker was planning to do to the Bat family fell flat. The end result is more "been there, done that", than innovative or revolutionary.

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