The Shadow wrote:This post should have ended the thread.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda...
The President wrote:You drew those?
Yes sir, I'm a has-been animator who's now a wanna-be cartoonist.
The President wrote:I'm not denying that Before Watchmen is creatively bankrupt. I think most of the issues will suck.
I totally agree. This is why I won't be buying them, creator rights abuse sucks no doubt but what grinds my gears is instead of making their own "classic", they're rationalizing a rehash cash grab. The fact that they screwed Moore and Gibbons over is just icing on the cake so to speak.
I am just saying that DC has the right to do it since they own the characters.
They don't own them actually, Watchmen is still licensed from Moore and Gibbons. Moore still gets paid, he just chooses to defer his cut to Gibbons rather than be affiliated with DC at all. That's part of the reason why it's unsavory, Moore is locked into a licensing agreement that prevents him from controlling his property, but its still his and Gibbons. Theoretically, The Watchmen could revert to Moore and Gibbons IF the conditions of out of print for a year
, were ever met. BW will ultimately serve to reinforce Watchmen sales, so that's why it will be a spit in the eye to Moore and Gibbons. Gibbons isn't independently wealthy though, he can't live off principles like Moore can so that's why he's not as vocal.
I also don't think Alan Moore should criticize today's creators for working on "his" creations or writing stories that he says are copied from his (Blackest Night)
Why not? His criticism is the same as ours, that DC comics is creatively bankrupt. They are content on raiding the archives to play it safe for the same reasons Hollywood is obsessed with reboots, remakes and sequels. I don't think Moore is personally offended they're expanding on his eight page WFH GL story, he just uses it as a example.
when he does the same thing. Alan Moore has used what other people had written for his whole career.
But everything he's used has been radically transformed from the source material, that makes it his own. Moore is contemptuous of projects that don't transform the source material like adaptations, sequels, prequels, reboots and remakes.
And we aren't talking about archetypes like your pervious posts. Everyone is an archetype. He takes actual existing characters and uses them. Again, I have no problem with this as I love Fables, but the criticism of his fellow creators for doing what he has always done annoys me.
Moore "takes" characters that are up for grabs and does things with them that is completely unique. His fellow creators are "taking" Moore's licensed characters and not doing anything with them that hasn't been done already. When it's all over their BW project will only serve to generate more sales for Watchmen and therefore ensure that the series doesn't go out of print and the creators never resume control.
From his point of view, these guys are Scabs.