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[S.F. Jude Terror]

Yeah, but you like X-Men Forever, too.

I'm about to blaspheme myself, but issue #23 didn't live up to my expectations (it was still good). It's more Marvel's fault than Claremont's, as he told us in our recent interview that he wasn't planning or trying to make this "Season 1" or anything, that was all Marvel's idea, but because they packaged it as that I was sort of trained to expect a huge season finale type thing, but instead it's just the climax of the current arc. Still, issue #24 is looking good, and so is "Season 2" and Giant Size.

[******]

No way man, the apex of Fraction's writing is in either Casanova or the 2nd Immortal Iron Fist arc.

Or maybe those Thor one-shots. He's just awesome in general.

I would say he's awesome occasionally and just okay in general.

[thefourthman]

I would say he's awesome occasionally and just okay in general.

This.
I think someone else wrote the Thor One Shots.

When does he take over Thor?

[sdsichero]

This.
I think someone else wrote the Thor One Shots.

If you mean these...






They were all Fraction.

[GLX]

If you mean these...






They were all Fraction.

And they were all awesome.

[thefourthman]

I meant that they are better than anything else Fraction has written... by a long shot. so I am incredulous that he wrote them.

[Punchy]

I meant that they are better than anything else Fraction has written... by a long shot. so I am incredulous that he wrote them.

So you think Ba and Moon are the same person and that there was someone else pretending to be Fraction?

You're crazy.

[thefourthman]

So you think Ba and Moon are the same person and that there was someone else pretending to be Fraction?

You're crazy.

no, i am incredulous, I refuse to believe - doesn't mean I refuse the evidence before my eyes.

[doombug]

Prince of Power #1

Wrote by Greg Pak and Fred Van Lente
Art by Reilly Brown

amadeus cho is now the CEO of the Olympus Group and calls the shots for the gods on Earth. He's using that to find his good friend Herc who he knows isn't as dead as his sister would have everyone believe. It's a new number one but it's a direct continuation of the incredible hercules series and everything pak and Van Lente have been building on for a while now.

Cho is a great character to follow as he continues to grow. His reluctance to admit that Herc is dead is a good thing as it's obvious our hero is elsewhere in the world. I really enjoy Cho working with Banner and Hebe who is now his assistant.

My only complaint is with the ending as that was slightly telegraphed. I mean it's fun but you could see the twist coming. Reilly's artwork is just getting stronger as his career goes on. I've been a follower of his work since the stuff on deadpool/cable.

Story: 8
Art: 9

Over all: 8.5

[Punchy]

no, i am incredulous, I refuse to believe - doesn't mean I refuse the evidence before my eyes.

You refuse to believe that a writer can be inconsistent?

[thefourthman]

You refuse to believe that a writer can be inconsistent?

no, I have a hard time believing that a writer whose best work was at best better than average could churn out perfect comics about a character I could have cared less about before said comics. I even started reading Simonson's run on Thor as a result of those one shots. He had lots of great ideas, and even a few exemplary comics before those, but nothing he wrote even hinted at his ability to write a comic of that quality (much less what four of them). They were not hindered by his apparent attention disorder problems and were great ideas. Both had never occured in a single product from him before.

Iron Fist is great (although, the second arc went on way too long), but he had help. I am guessing that the team up with Bru was good for him. He is a much more competent writer now then he was pre Iron Fist.

[doombug]

no, I have a hard time believing that a writer whose best work was at best better than average could churn out perfect comics about a character I could have cared less about before said comics. I even started reading Simonson's run on Thor as a result of those one shots. He had lots of great ideas, and even a few exemplary comics before those, but nothing he wrote even hinted at his ability to write a comic of that quality (much less what four of them). They were not hindered by his apparent attention disorder problems and were great ideas. Both had never occured in a single product from him before.

Iron Fist is great (although, the second arc went on way too long), but he had help. I am guessing that the team up with Bru was good for him. He is a much more competent writer now then he was pre Iron Fist.

Fraction himself would probably agree with you that bru helped him grow as a writer.

[Punchy]

no, I have a hard time believing that a writer whose best work was at best better than average could churn out perfect comics about a character I could have cared less about before said comics. I even started reading Simonson's run on Thor as a result of those one shots. He had lots of great ideas, and even a few exemplary comics before those, but nothing he wrote even hinted at his ability to write a comic of that quality (much less what four of them). They were not hindered by his apparent attention disorder problems and were great ideas. Both had never occured in a single product from him before.

Iron Fist is great (although, the second arc went on way too long), but he had help. I am guessing that the team up with Bru was good for him. He is a much more competent writer now then he was pre Iron Fist.

Bah, what do you know, you don't like Casanova!

[thefourthman]

Bah, what do you know, you don't like Casanova!

I like Casanova fine. I don't put it up on some crazy pedestal where it doesn't belong. It is a fun series that is hampered by grave story telling problems.

[Victorian Squid]

So, another review called this a--ugh--Bwa-Ha-Ha book. And conversely to how I'm thinking, he's seemed to mean it was funny. Who actually found it funny, meaning it made you actually laugh? And what line was it?