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[Stephen Day]

Songbird, Mach IV, and Fixer are great examples too.

Agreed, those three are indeed good examples.

Basically, there is growth for characters in both Marvel and DC. You have to step beyond the big name characters to find it though.

[Greg]

How has Quicksilver grown as a character? Didn't Mighty Avengers send him right back to where he's always been?

Yeah, but for awhile, he was having some great developments. From Decimation, Son of M, Silent War, X-Factor. Dude was involved and had some serious moments and stories over the past few years. Of course, that was the peak and it's back to his status quo.

[Jubilee]

You think Wolverine has taken steps back in terms of character growth? He's the head of a school now. I think that's a pretty big departure from the anti-authoritarian team asshole he was originally presented as.

I think he's pretty much in the same place as he was in 1992. A loveable anti-hero who has completely lost any "edge"

[Stephen Day]

Bucky grew a lot as a character, but completely had the rug pulled form underneath him once it was revealed Captain America had not actually been shot with a sniper, but instead with a modified gun that instead of causing actual bodily damaged, fired a ray that sent him back in time to relive his own past experiences.

It may not be in the way you'd want it to go, but I'd say that he is still growing as a character in Winter Soldier.

[BubbaKanoosh]

How has Quicksilver grown as a character? Didn't Mighty Avengers send him right back to where he's always been?

Quicksilver hasn't been good since PAD stopped writing him.

[Jubilee]

Yeah, but for awhile, he was having some great developments. From Decimation, Son of M, Silent War, X-Factor. Dude was involved and had some serious moments and stories over the past few years. Of course, that was the peak and it's back to his status quo.

Yeah he was such an interesting character after Son of M and Silent War. Those books really did something new and awesome with Quicksilver, and I couldn't wait to see where he ended up next.

Oh, Mighty Avengers. He said he was a Skrull and back to the same old. Fair enough.

[George_Kaplan]

I think Flash Thompson has experienced some significant character growth in the last few years.

[Punchy]

Cyclops

[chap22]

I'd say Stephanie Brown/Spoiler/Batgirl got quite a bit too. Then alas...Nu52...

[Punchy]

Flash Thompson
Luke Cage

[BubbaKanoosh]

Cyclops

..is right

[BubbaKanoosh]

I'd say Stephanie Brown/Spoiler/Batgirl got quite a bit too. Then alas...Nu52...

Can almost hear a sigh of frustration when you typed the ending of that sentence lol

[Stephen Day]

Can almost hear a sigh of frustration when you typed the ending of that sentence lol

He's not alone either.

There has been both good and bad that has come with the reboot, but the loss of a lot of really good character growth amoungst DC's minor characters has to go under the bad category.

[Jubilee]

I love how the answer is Cyclops and yet about 2 threads down from this, we've got a thread where people are speculating how the writers can change him back.

Sigh.

[BubbaKanoosh]

If they weren't created in the 60s, they don't deserve growth.

-Didio/Johns/Ross mantra