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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Zechs » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:33 pm

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How about the fact that bitch deaths have become an overused plot device in the Big 2 for the past 7 years, and really need to stop, because it's just damn boring? What harm would it have done for Kingsley to stay on that Island?


The reason? To bait fans of Kingsley into buying this comic.
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby sdsichero » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:02 pm

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How about the fact that bitch deaths have become an overused plot device in the Big 2 for the past 7 years, and really need to stop, because it's just damn boring? What harm would it have done for Kingsley to stay on that Island?


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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby sdsichero » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:04 pm

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Slott thinks so with Phil, thus your post is mute. :P


Are you using a screen reader?

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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby sdsichero » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:05 pm

Zechs wrote:
The reason? To bait fan of Kingsley into buying this comic.


I don't Marvel needed $3.99 that badly.

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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Zechs » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:27 pm

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Are you using a screen reader?


Hey Slott says in the very article I posted that he ain't giving any answers to how Phil got his powers back he refers to Spider-Girl.
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Zechs » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:27 pm

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I don't Marvel needed $3.99 that badly.


What? Did I hack your s/n? Obviously they think they did since Amazing is at 55,000.
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Doozer » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:44 pm

A fashion designer who used questionable and ruthless business practices...
http://marvel.wikia.com/Roderick_Kingsley_(Earth-616)



Respect for character OVAH.

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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby john lewis hawk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:52 pm

While this isn't saying much, Slott's run has been the best Amazing has been since JMS's run.

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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Doozer » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:54 pm

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It was WORSE.

Hey guess what guys. The goblin wasn't Ned. It was some minor background character no one has written about, thought about in 15 yrs, and never cared about.

and we pulled it off how? Through the old "evil twin" ruse :lol:

It was PATHETIC. and never should have been written.

Some dude no one liked. yayyyyy.


Yeah, in my mind, Hobby will always be Leeds --> Macendale

Leeds got jobbed out for Macendale who got jobbed out for Kingsley who got jobbed out for Ulrich. What's the big deal, it's what the character does. Ulrich will probably get jobbed out for someone else.

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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Zechs » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:10 am

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Yeah, in my mind, Hobby will always be Leeds --> Macendale

Leeds got jobbed out for Macendale who got jobbed out for Kingsley who got jobbed out for Ulrich. What's the big deal, it's what the character does. Ulrich will probably get jobbed out for someone else.

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Your forgetting. Priest killed Ned, not because he was the Hobgoblin, but was told by editorial he wasn't. A lot of people seem to forget that. Ironically Ned's death was retconned to be by the Foreigner's men, and not underworld criminals.


But really I wouldn't even call Ned jobbed by Jason. It was Foreigner who he truly was jobbed too. Macendale jobbed to everyone, even Phil as well ironically. The thing is, that's not what the Hobgoblin was meant to be, but oh well let Slott ruin it into the ground. Helps destroys Amazing Spider-Man more, which in the end benefits me. :-D
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Doozer » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:18 am

Zechs wrote:
Your forgetting. Priest killed Ned, not because he was the Hobgoblin, but was told by editorial he wasn't. A lot of people seem to forget that. Ironically Ned's death was retconned to be by the Foreigner's men, and not underworld criminals.


But really I wouldn't even call Ned jobbed by Jason. It was Foreigner who he truly was jobbed too. Macendale jobbed to everyone, even Phil as well ironically. The thing is, that's not what the Hobgoblin was meant to be, but oh well let Slott ruin it into the ground. Helps destroys Amazing Spider-Man more, which in the end benefits me. :-D


Wait, so if Hobby has spent damn near 25 years as a jobber, how exactly has Slott ruined him by keeping the jobbing alive? Hobgoblin jobbing out is...well, it's his job. He's a Norman/Harry also-ran.

And, ASM has been the best it's been in YEARS, with the exception of a chunk of the JMS run. I don't read it on the regular because I don't have much interest in the new status quo, but I hardly think Hobby, who is half a step up from Stiltman/Shocker, is going to bring down Marvel's flagship title.

I get that you don't like OMD/BND, I really think the whole thing was poorly done and was based in a very selfish move by JoeyQ, but whatever, I'll pick it apart but it's not going to have any baring on how i rate new stories coming out.

Plus, you pirate the comics, so Marvel couldn't give a shit what you want, and more power to them.

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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby Zechs » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:43 am

Now Doozer, you seem to be out of the loop of knowledge about myself. I do actually buy comics. If you want I can actually post you my pull list last week and actual copies of comics. I actually paid for #648-650 thus keeping my word that I only buy Amazing Spider-Man again if Kingsley would return. I have a full right to bitch since it's my dime.

You cannot blame me in that Marvel cashed in on by hyping the event in ads stating, "MOST REQUESTED SPIDEY VILLAIN". I love that part too, but that's the agency who was doing ads for this stupid event. But I digress, I don't hide that part of myself, and honestly I haven't done it as much as I used too. I only do it now just to get the moment of the week. :P

And ye of continued little knowledge. The only jobbers of the name Hobgoblin are named Macendale and soon to be Urich. Thanks to said retcon, the original Hobgoblin aka Kingsley never was that. He tricked the entire world into thinking he was dead. He has the only distinction of a Spidey villain even when you include him as Ned only being caught ONCE.

His impact haunted Harry enough to reprise his role as the Green Goblin, Jonah quitting as editor, Flash and Betty Brant's lives where never the same thanks t him. Though he never bared any personal grudge to Spidey, he influenced actions of Spidey's supporting cast even now.

And like some others of this board (and even Spiderfan), I refuse to believe Kingsley dead. The man is like Doom and Nick Fury. I know somehow someway some Marvel writer will realize the horrid error Slott made. Not to mention if I continue bitching, it'll get their attention. It got Steve Wacker's. :-D
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:04 am

john lewis hawk wrote:While this isn't saying much, Slott's run has been the best Amazing has been since JMS's run.


8)

How Slott gets hate from the same people that give that dreck known as Spider-Girl gets mad unconditional love doesnt make sense. Spider-Girl read like a bad recent Claremont book.

Besides the weakass HipsterGoblin I find it hard to criticise anything about Big Time.
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:06 am

Zechs wrote:And like some others of this board (and even Spiderfan), I refuse to believe Kingsley dead. The man is like Doom and Nick Fury. I know somehow someway some Marvel writer will realize the horrid error Slott made. Not to mention if I continue bitching, it'll get their attention. It got Steve Wacker's. :-D

2phar.

And you do realise the guy who's editing this book is the same guy that made ups believe Booster Gold was dead for the better part of a year while toying with us on the internet, right? :wink:
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Re: Dan Slott Continues to Know Nothing About the Hobgoblin

Postby john lewis hawk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:38 am

fieldy snuts wrote:
8)

How Slott gets hate from the same people that give that dreck known as Spider-Girl gets mad unconditional love doesnt make sense. Spider-Girl read like a bad recent Claremont book.

Besides the weakass HipsterGoblin I find it hard to criticise anything about Big Time.

I don't think I could even fake interest in Spider-Girl, let alone buy it.

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