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Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Juan Cena » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:40 pm

habitual wrote:
So we agree, we should change the imprint of the Legion, change the writer and artists and turn the title completely on it's head, because "It's official the new Legion series is a flop".

In essence we should burn the house down to get rid of the termites.

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No, Legion at needs a new writer and artist. Beyond that, it needs to refocus on what made it a successful book in the first place.
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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:54 pm

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No, Legion at needs a new writer and artist. Beyond that, it needs to refocus on what made it a successful book in the first place.


The undiscerning taste of children 50 years ago?
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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Juan Cena » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:07 pm

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The undiscerning taste of children 50 years ago?


More like a more positive, optimistic future setting, a team in it's late teens-early 20's, good continunity, and a art that is closer to Grell or Cockrum than the looser, more cartoonish art.
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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby nietoperz » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:15 pm

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I didn't consider Snyder a "big-name writer" before he started writing Detective. Same with Lemire.

That's nice.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby 3MJ » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:30 pm

habitual wrote:
It's like DC editorial has given up on the idea that success comes from great writing and great art and has reduced the medium to nothing more than a series of publicity stunts.

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Well yes. Of course. It's been that way for absolutely ages.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Arion » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:07 pm

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The undiscerning taste of children 50 years ago?


This made me laugh.

I'd say make the Legion youthful, there's a reason why readers always love books about young people, if you're young you feel related, and if you're old you remember your youth. It's a win win scenario.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Juan Cena » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:13 pm

Arion wrote:
This made me laugh.

I'd say make the Legion youthful, there's a reason why readers always love books about young people, if you're young you feel related, and if you're old you remember your youth. It's a win win scenario.


I would either have Time Trapper/infinite man/Glorith de-age a good chunk of the team back to their teens, or have some kind of soft reboot where continuity was for the most part preserved (with nods to NuSupes), but a younger team.
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Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."


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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Zechs » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:43 pm

Jubilee wrote:
Well yes. Of course. It's been that way for absolutely ages.


But now they've gone to the extreme. Events within the books themselves instead of massive company events. Whoring out properties they think will get them money (Watchmen). Reducing or cutting characters due to them thinking readers are stupid.
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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Herald » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:19 pm

The Nacireman wrote:
More like a more positive, optimistic future setting, a team in it's late teens-early 20's, good continunity, and a art that is closer to Grell or Cockrum than the looser, more cartoonish art.


I told you they shoulda stuck with the post-Zero-Hour team. You yourself just described them. All DC has to do is hire a more realistic artist than Moy.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Juan Cena » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:32 pm

Herald wrote:
I told you they shoulda stuck with the post-Zero-Hour team. You yourself just described them. All DC has to do is hire a more realistic artist than Moy.


Archie Legion went way off the rails when it turned Projectra into a snake. It's the pre-LSH #63 continuity that Legion Fandom claimed they wanted.
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Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."


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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby habitual » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:09 pm

The Nacireman wrote:
No, Legion at needs a new writer and artist. Beyond that, it needs to refocus on what made it a successful book in the first place.


No, you're a complete hypocrite when it comes to this argument.

Just accept it.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby habitual » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:11 pm

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Well yes. Of course. It's been that way for absolutely ages.


I'm going to ignore the fact that you're a complete idiot and point out the entire body of Vertigo work.

The downside of what I pointed out is that Marvel is reacting to this, and there a number of people here buying into it.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby nietoperz » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:24 pm

habitual wrote:
No, you're a complete hypocrite when it comes to this argument.

Just accept it.

Hab


Plus, it's not just that he objects to the current direction of the LSH book, he's going to go on about it until DC build a Legion title to his specifications.
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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby Herald » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:48 pm

The Nacireman wrote:
Archie Legion went way off the rails when it turned Projectra into a snake.


The books made her partly human during... which story was it, the Hypertaxis story??
In any case, all a writer has to do is take her all the way. Problem solved.

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Re: Darth Didio Speaks on Hellblazer Cancellation

Postby e_galston » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:35 pm

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I didn't consider Snyder a "big-name writer" before he started writing Detective. Same with Lemire.


but Snyder became a "big name" BEFORE he started Swamp Thing...
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