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[UnionJack]

I'm quite enjoying some of the Before Watchmen books (but I'd always be a Fuck Alan Moore kind of guy) so to see the sales falling is pretty sad, and to see an asshole like Rude get work from DC is even worse. One to avoid.

Why is Steve Rude "an asshole" exactly? Not being antagonistic, genuinely curious. He's one of my absolute favourite artists but I haven't heard much of/about him for some time. Gave up looking for Nexus after #100....

As for BW despite having some fantastic creators on it, the whole thing just hasn't appealed to me. The Watchmen story was told in 12 issues - no further embellishment required.

If only DC had seen fit to give a load of their classic Golden Age characters this treatment. I'd have been well up for that.

[Chris]

I wonder if the handful of books that are still pretty successful (Batman, Justice League, Action Comics) could have been just as successful without the reboot. Because the sales of everything else are looking pretty bad.

The final issues of each pre-reboot:

Batman #713: 51,760
JLA #59: 43,545
Action Comics #904: 39,323

By comparison, New 52:

Batman #12: 125,249
JL #12: 120,796
Action Comics #12: 71,203

Not sure if Scott Snyder or Geoff Johns would do the same numbers without the 52 reboot. Those are huge jumps... but I think you could easily make a case for Action Comics doing similarly with Morrison without the reboot.

[Chris]

For comparison's sake... the last issue of Snyder's Detective run sold 39,729.

[Victorian Squid]

For comparison's sake... the last issue of Snyder's Detective run sold 39,729.

This Death Of The Family thing of his is HUGE.

[Chris]

That just started with #13. It's why I didn't count the #0 issue or that, since those are both even higher.

Snyder's Batman (New 52) has averaged 123,324 copies per month.

[Victorian Squid]

That just started with #13. It's why I didn't count the #0 issue or that, since those are both even higher.

Snyder's Batman (New 52) has averaged 123,324 copies per month.

Can't wait to see what kind of boost he just gave Batgirl and Catwoman. Newsstand copies of Catwoman #13 (the kind you can probably still find at your local bookstore) are going for over $25 bucks.

[UnionJack]

Ugh. Absolutely determined not to get sucked into anymore 'events'. I buy most of the Bat-Books (dropped Red Hood early on and recently Batgirl, Batwing & Batwoman) & refuse to buy 'extras' to get the story. After 8 years of Marvel 'events' I'm evented-out.
Did resolve that I'd drop any comics that started using the event gimmick but I'm inherently weak when it comes to comics.
I was even thinking of giving the dreadful Green Arrow another chance after dropping it at #3......

[Log-Man]

This book actually appeared in my dream last night. It was a comedy. Very odd.

[The Bass]

Why is Steve Rude "an asshole" exactly? Not being antagonistic, genuinely curious. He's one of my absolute favourite artists but I haven't heard much of/about him for some time. Gave up looking for Nexus after #100....

This, for starters
https://www.facebook.com/notes/steve-ru ... 5812861294

Not to mention his horrific attitude to people at conventions, which I've heard first hand.

[holtom2000]

The final issues of each pre-reboot:

Batman #713: 51,760
JLA #59: 43,545
Action Comics #904: 39,323

By comparison, New 52:

Batman #12: 125,249
JL #12: 120,796
Action Comics #12: 71,203

Not sure if Scott Snyder or Geoff Johns would do the same numbers without the 52 reboot. Those are huge jumps... but I think you could easily make a case for Action Comics doing similarly with Morrison without the reboot.

You have to be joking. Did you see the C-list morts on the JLA before they killed it off? Morrison also got a new start with the big guns, without a reboot, and he hit a home run. Lee and Johns on a JLA with the original 7 or even Cyborg would have still be a box office hit.
The real story of how quickly the other books have gone down - not unexpected either.

[The Bass]

This book actually appeared in my dream last night. It was a comedy. Very odd.

I had a extraordinarily vivid dream about a Hawkeye movie where Alan Rickman was the villain.

[GLX]

This, for starters
https://www.facebook.com/notes/steve-ru ... 5812861294

Not to mention his horrific attitude to people at conventions, which I've heard first hand.

In all fairness, the dude has quite a few mental issues.

[Arion]

I had a extraordinarily vivid dream about a Hawkeye movie where Alan Rickman was the villain.

Why do they always put him as the villain?

[The Bass]

Because he's ALAN RICKMAN

Also, he wasn't the villain in Galaxy Quest. Or the Harry Potters

[Zechs]

Because he's ALAN RICKMAN

Also, he wasn't the villain in Galaxy Quest. Or the Harry Potters