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X-Factor #231 "No More..."

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X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby doombug » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:42 pm

I've really been enjoying this alternate world storyline with Madrox jumping around to all these alternate realities.

It was interesting to see an aged Tony Stark dealing with what he was dealing with and really flipped with Steve Rogers and what became of him.

Plus that ending was awesome not to mention how easily PAD was able to flip a certain plot point about Wanda completely in reverse!
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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby Chris » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:55 pm

Mr. Tryp is totally related to Layla somehow.

He "knows stuff!"
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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby Timbales » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:56 pm

Holland Oats wrote:Mr. Tryp is totally related to Layla somehow.

He "knows stuff!"


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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby doombug » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:06 pm

Holland Oats wrote:Mr. Tryp is totally related to Layla somehow.

He "knows stuff!"

Isn't Mr. Tryp also from She-Hulk? Or am I remembering wrong?

And yeah, totally related.
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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby Chris » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:07 pm

doombug wrote:Isn't Mr. Tryp also from She-Hulk? Or am I remembering wrong?

And yeah, totally related.


I don't know. I don't remember some plot points from early on in this run, relating to Tryp... wasn't his whole thing that Madrox wasn't a mutant, and that he was a part of some other race or something?

If I'm remembering right.. then Tryp, Madrox, and Layla.. all a part of it.
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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby Rockman » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:11 pm

Wasn't there like four Mr. Trypp's all at various stages in their lives running some kind of scheme earlier in the series?

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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby MrBlack » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:56 pm

Rockman wrote:Wasn't there like four Mr. Trypp's all at various stages in their lives running some kind of scheme earlier in the series?

Yes.

Tryp claimed that Jamie, like himself, is part of a race of empowered humans that pre-date mutants. The fact that Jamie was born with his powers rather than gaining them at adolescence was put forth as proof of this.

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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby HNutz » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:27 pm

He was a "killcrop", right?

MrBlack wrote:Yes.

Tryp claimed that Jamie, like himself, is part of a race of empowered humans that pre-date mutants. The fact that Jamie was born with his powers rather than gaining them at adolescence was put forth as proof of this.


Would that also apply to Nightcrawler, as he was born with his blue skin?

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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby habitual » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:45 pm

HNutz wrote:He was a "killcrop", right?



Would that also apply to Nightcrawler, as he was born with his blue skin?


I think they've always differentiated between physical differences and "abilities", i.e Leech's power will work on Logan's healing factor, but, he'll still have his claws.

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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby mrorangesoda » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:10 pm

HNutz wrote:Would that also apply to Nightcrawler, as he was born with his blue skin?


Also, Nightcrawler is... sigh... part demon.

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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby avengingtitan » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:02 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:
Also, Nightcrawler is... sigh... part demon.

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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby Chris » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:34 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:
Also, Nightcrawler is... sigh... part demon.

Technically, Azazel was still a mutant.
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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby doombug » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:40 pm

If I get Peter David on the podcast somepoint this month, I'll have to ask him about that for you guys. Because now I'm curious about it.

Though if I can ask you guys was this reality based on the main 616 where the tipping/changing point of everything was House of M? I don't remember Tony being in space for that so I was curious.
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Re: X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby mrorangesoda » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:30 am

Holland Oats wrote:Technically, Azazel was still a mutant.


With ties to demons. He's totally a...sigh... mutant demon.

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X-Factor #231 "No More..."

Postby Chris » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:08 am

mrorangesoda wrote:
With ties to demons. He's totally a...sigh... mutant demon.

I'm pretty sure they were just mutants. I mean, it was dumb.. but Austen went the mutant route to explain angels and devils, saying they were just mutant breeds. This was biblical times so people just thought they were demons because they didn't know better. Or something along those lines
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