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by **MoneyMelon** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:46 pm

DaReekstah wrote:True. But let's be honest..

Bucky as he is now.. the Winter Soldier/New Cap Bucky.. might as well be a brand new character with all the changes.

He is basically what Wally was. A legacy.

Fair point.

But it's an example that there's hardly any characters who are dead for good. Comics are cyclical. People come back if you wait long enough.

Besides, nobody's said Wally's being replaced anyway. Geoff Johns is usually pretty clever about this stuff.

by **nietoperz** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:44 am

I'm a bit squeamish about this. I generally trust Johns, but Wally is one of my favourite characters while I have always found Barry really dull. I think bringing him back is a step backwards...

by **Zenguru** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:54 am

nietoperz wrote:I'm a bit squeamish about this. I generally trust Johns, but Wally is one of my favourite characters while I have always found Barry really dull. I think bringing him back is a step backwards...

Barry was always pretty dull back when he was alive. Same thing with Hal Jordan. But Johns actually made Hal more interesting than he'd been in years.

Perhaps it does deface a perfect moment from Crisis bringing Barry back. But maybe Johns can work some magic here. After all, in the few moments he alluded to Barry's past, he revealed some things that never would have been printed 20 years ago.

Johns retroactively made Barry do the mind-wipe thing on some of his villains in the wake of Id Crisis. And we knew he wouldn't stay dead forever. Even Wolfman thought of a neat way to bring him back. Perhaps that is the method Johns is using. If so, I heartily support more Barry Allen stories.

by **Psivage** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:20 am

Frost wrote:When you do kill Ollie as well.

Done. All three of them at once.

by **COBRA Command** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:23 am

About time. Much like the best came back in GL Rebirth, the best is finally coming back in Flash. Wally and Family is a terrible comic, but I might just start picking up Flash with this Rebirth.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:30 am

nietoperz wrote:I'm a bit squeamish about this. I generally trust Johns, but Wally is one of my favourite characters while I have always found Barry really dull. I think bringing him back is a step backwards...

With the popularity of CSI and criminal science, they feel Barry will be more interesting.

thing is, how long has be been dead? and how much as criminal science improved since he died?

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:31 am

XtremeX wrote:About time. Much like the best came back in GL Rebirth, the best is finally coming back in Flash. Wally and Family is a terrible comic, but I might just start picking up Flash with this Rebirth.

OMG.

I used to have that board game your Av is from.

holy shit.

sorry.

random.

by **chap22** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:41 am

XtremeX wrote:Wally and Family is a terrible comic,

have you been reading Peyer's story arc? b/c i'd disagree 100%.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:51 am

Flash has been great lately, better then it has in a while..

by **superfictious** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:55 am

doombug wrote:Last I checked Kyle and Guy are both the major players in the GLC.

Don't tell me you're one of those posters that loves using rolly-eyes whenever someone just happens to mention they'd like to see more of their favorite non-Hal GL.

by **rdrsfn82** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:10 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:With the popularity of CSI and criminal science, they feel Barry will be more interesting.

thing is, how long has be been dead? and how much as criminal science improved since he died?

Well the Flash characters can learn at super speed, so it would only take a day or so for him to be totally caught up, probably not even that long.

Also with the sliding time scale it's probably only been like 6 years or so, at most. since he died. So it's not like he's that far behind the times.

by **rdrsfn82** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:11 pm

chap22 wrote:have you been reading Peyer's story arc? b/c i'd disagree 100%.

The first issue or two were a little clunky, but since then it's been really good. Too bad it looks like he's only doing one or two more issues before someone else takes over.

by **MoneyMelon** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:41 pm

chap22 wrote:have you been reading Peyer's story arc? b/c i'd disagree 100%.

Peyer has been great.

Wish there was a better artist on the book, though.

by **KING King Impulse** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:42 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:Well the Flash characters can learn at super speed, so it would only take a day or so for him to be totally caught up, probably not even that long.

It's been established (by Johns himself) that Bart is the only speedster that retains the information he learns at super speed