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by **Chesscub** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:37 pm

Amoebas wrote:Johnny: I'm back.
Everyone: Hurray.
Johnny: And FUCK YOU everyone. You never saw me dead, you just let them take me. And nobody came looking for me? Even if you thought I was dead, no one tried to bring my body home? Face it fuckwads - you left me there. And why the hell was I there in the first place - to push a button? WTF? Send a fuckin HERBIE next time will ya? I'm outs here, going to DC where I can be rebooted into a world without such sorry-ass "friends". Fuck you.

Win!

by **Zechs** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:44 pm

sdsichero wrote:

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YES I AM!! :smt013

by **sdsichero** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:55 pm

Zechs wrote:
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YES I AM!!

Goooood... let the hate flow through you...

by **bkthomson** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:08 pm

Four, here is my shocked look :shock:

by **False Prophet** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:16 pm

To be fair, no one even tried to pretend this death was going to be long-term.

by **Kolimar** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:31 pm

Hm...

by **skywatcher** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:48 pm

False Prophet wrote:To be fair, no one even tried to pretend this death was going to be long-term.

Come on, Marvel polybagged the death issue!

by **Juan Cena** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:52 pm

skywatcher wrote:Come on, Marvel polybagged the death issue!

So did DC when Superman died. What's your point?

by **skywatcher** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:54 pm

The Nacireman wrote:
So did DC when Superman died. What's your point?

That they were trying to pretend it was going to last and was important, of course!

(It was DC who started using the death of major characters as a story (and sales) gimmick Marvel have just followed suit.)

by **SuperginraiX** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:01 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:
Comic deaths by themselves? Beyond the emotional reaction that some of them generate, nope.

Actual good stories that get destroyed by extraneous nonsense? Very much so.

You're like the only guy who thought Bucky was going to remain Captain America forever. Brubaker's whole plan was to bring Steve back into the role. Hell, he was planning on doing it sooner according to all accounts. Heroic Age was supposed to be his big return but he was asked if Rogers could be the Top Cop for a while.

If anything, that extended Bucky's time as Cap.

I mean, I think they killed him stupidly and everything but we all knew it was coming. I can't get THAT worked up about it. I've been reading comics too long to get too upset about that stuff.

by **False Prophet** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:07 pm

skywatcher wrote:Come on, Marvel polybagged the death issue!

I still can't believe polybags could be making a comeback. :smt011

by **skywatcher** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:10 pm

False Prophet wrote:
I still can't believe polybags could be making a comeback.

I know. Ultimate Comics Fallout was in a bag at my LCS this week (not sure if that was the publisher, though)

by **Grayson** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:03 pm

There were far too many loose ends for Johnny's "death" to have lasted for very long.

* Johnny was "killed" off panel. No body in fiction pretty much guarantees no death.

* Franklin Richards has his powers back, hell, he even volunteered to create more time so that they could have figured out a way to save Johnny. For whatever reason Valeria was dead set against this idea though...in fact she seemed hell bent on things playing out the way they did.

* Lyja was left in the Negative Zone during Secret Invasion. Surely she would be aware of a new Annihilation Wave and their plans to invade Earth. Don't you think that she would have attempted to infiltrate their ranks in an attempt to get through and warn somebody? If she was there (and I strongly believe that she was) then she would have desperately attempted to save Johnny.

by **mrorangesoda** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:46 pm

Anyone that thought that death "mattered" was fooling themselves. No body, no confirmation that he was dead= totally not dead. I'm surprised Doom hasn't brought up all the times in the old days they thought he was dead with no confirmation and how he always came back.