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In General, Has Comics Art Improved over the Years?

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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:59 am

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The Old Doctor

Postby The Old Doctor » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:34 am

Juan Cena wrote:

To be honest, I kind like the Avengeline cover better (though it isn't that great). The Dr. Strange cover may actually too over-designed with the frame and the skull and the tentacles and everything. It all kind of overwhelms Dr Strange on the cover. The colors aren't too pleasing, either.


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Amoebas

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Postby Amoebas » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:08 am

fieldy snuts wrote:I think todays art in comics is a lot more varied and diverse in the mainstream. If you compare a lot of the silver age and later guys until the pre 90's I don't think there was much difference with the style they were trying to accomplish outside of their personal talent.

I'll counter.

While the following all had/have unique personal talents, these artists found ways to make thier story-telling distinctive from the standard 'house style: Kirby, Colan, Adams, Steranko, Wrightson, Starlin, PC Russell, Kaluta, Ploog, Robbins, Windsor-Smith, Brunner, Chaykin, Crumb, Speigleman, etc.
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Chessack

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Postby Chessack » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:13 pm

Mr. Log wrote:Now, the other questions that people are addressing are composition and storytelling, especially of covers. These have definitely gone down. Covers are made to be posters, now. They have less to do with the interior story than ever before.


I agree with this. Dynamite is especially bad at this. Covers are pure pin-ups in most cases.
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achilles

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Postby achilles » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:02 pm

An interesting aside is that the art the old guys used to put out in comics often looked radically simpler than the stuff they did elsewhere. For example, Wally Wood had a simple style in comics, but when I look at a cover he did for a novella my dad wrote back in the day, (way before I was born), it was complex, detailed, and in fact looked closer to something you might see on a fine painted cover in today's comics.

So those guys were versatile and adjusted according to the medium and how much time they had. Plus, I think they showed more raw creativity than most of today's crop. The art may or may not have been cruder back in the day, but there was a vibrancy missing from much of today's stuff.
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The Beast

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Postby The Beast » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:13 pm

I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a comic book by just looking at the pictures.
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sdsichero

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Postby sdsichero » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:49 pm

Note there is an Awesome Comic Art Thread. Folks should post images from different eras there!
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Amoebas

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Postby Amoebas » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:27 pm

achilles wrote:For example, Wally Wood had a simple style in comics,

Are you talking about a different Wally Wood?

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Either that or you need to define the word "simple".
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achilles

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Postby achilles » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:42 pm

Amoebas wrote:Are you talking about a different Wally Wood?

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Either that or you need to define the word "simple".


How about "simpler"?

The Old Doctor

Postby The Old Doctor » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:47 pm

Amoebas wrote:Are you talking about a different Wally Wood?

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Either that or you need to define the word "simple".


Wally did do book covers back in the day too.
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Amoebas

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Postby Amoebas » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:58 pm

The Old Doctor wrote:
Wally did do book covers back in the day too.


One of my favorites...
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fieldy snuts

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Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:35 pm

Amoebas wrote:I'll counter.

While the following all had/have unique personal talents, these artists found ways to make thier story-telling distinctive from the standard 'house style: Kirby, Colan, Adams, Steranko, Wrightson, Starlin, PC Russell, Kaluta, Ploog, Robbins, Windsor-Smith, Brunner, Chaykin, Crumb, Speigleman, etc.


I'll counter with this point: Those guys are just a grain in the sand across 3+ decades and despite their styles being unique they still adhered to the in-house styles which throttled them.

Example: Compare Colan's Dracula work with his mainstream stuff.
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Arion

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Postby Arion » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:48 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:I think todays art in comics is a lot more varied and diverse in the mainstream. If you compare a lot of the silver age and later guys until the pre 90's I don't think there was much difference with the style they were trying to accomplish outside of their personal talent.

Modern comic art seems more inclined to take a chance and be experimental giving us a whide range of looks and feels for the stories. Before, it was roughly the same look but would differ base on the caliber of the artist.

Sure there's differences when you line up Perez, Ordway, Byrne, Davis etc but the they were all going foe the same clean cut look.


Sure, there is a lot of variety nowadays.
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AngusH

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Postby AngusH » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:10 am

Definitely agree that a wider variety of comics has given artists more room to show their talent. Overall I'd say art has improved - but yeah, it's not necessarily the artists themselves that have improved.
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habitual

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Postby habitual » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:39 am

The Beast wrote:I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a comic book by just looking at the pictures.


Fantastic Four #588, right after the "death" of Johnny Storm, no dialogue all art and entirely moving.

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