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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby Arion » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:50 pm

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Instead of the Jim Lee high collar, he'll have a foreskin around his neck.


Wicked outfit. I can already imagine it.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby habitual » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:05 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:If DC can't put a good Superman book on the shelves, I have no faith in them doing anything interesting with the bargain basement Superman.


Bargin basement? Dude, reassess Captain Marvel adventures used to regularly blow Superman away in sales, he was one of if not the most popular comic book character for a long time.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby habitual » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:09 pm

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I can't call "Captain Marvel" a strong property when DC can't even call him Captain Marvel in the title of a comic book.


I really can't think of anything less relevant.

If Judd Winick can tell a good Captain Marvel story, anyone can.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby MoneyMelon » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:35 pm

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Bargin basement? Dude, reassess Captain Marvel adventures used to regularly blow Superman away in sales, he was one of if not the most popular comic book character for a long time.

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I don't think think this ever happened.

Superman is an icon and probably the most recognizable comic character in the history of Superhero comics. Successful movies, TV shows, cartoons, multiple comics, spinoffs, etc.

Meanwhile, most people still call Captain Marvel "Shazam"

He's pretty lame.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby Juan Cena » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:39 pm

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Bargin basement? Dude, reassess Captain Marvel adventures used to regularly blow Superman away in sales, he was one of if not the most popular comic book character for a long time.

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Which was back before DC sued for copyright infringement and won the case, which is why CM went away in the first place.

Funny how that came to bite DC back in the face. :wink:
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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby Juan Cena » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:41 pm

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I don't think think this ever happened.

Superman is an icon and probably the most recognizable comic character in the history of Superhero comics. Successful movies, TV shows, cartoons, multiple comics, spinoffs, etc.

Meanwhile, most people still call Captain Marvel "Shazam"

He's pretty lame.


It was back in the 40's.
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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby MoneyMelon » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:46 pm

The only cool thing about Shazam is Black Adam.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby habitual » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:54 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:The only cool thing about Shazam is Black Adam.


I think there are a number of people here that would argue with that.

Alex Ross used the character well in Justice.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby Juan Cena » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:17 pm

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Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."


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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby habitual » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:01 pm

Juan Cena wrote:
It was back in the 40's.


40's and a large part of the 50's, he dominated the market.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby MoneyMelon » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:23 pm

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40's and a large part of the 50's, he dominated the market.

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Little Lulu had an audience then too. Doesn't mean anybody's snatching up the rights to it. You can't compare 1950 to 2013.

I just don't think there's much of an audience for Shazam anymore and that's why it attracts little attention every time they dig it up. It's a corny concept.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby Juan Cena » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:37 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:
Little Lulu had an audience then too. Doesn't mean anybody's snatching up the rights to it. You can't compare 1950 to 2013.

I just don't think there's much of an audience for Shazam anymore and that's why it attracts little attention every time they dig it up. It's a corny concept.


I don't know if it's the concept is corny, or how the concept was interpreted which was corny.
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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby habitual » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:00 am

MoneyMelon wrote:
Little Lulu had an audience then too. Doesn't mean anybody's snatching up the rights to it. You can't compare 1950 to 2013.

I just don't think there's much of an audience for Shazam anymore and that's why it attracts little attention every time they dig it up. It's a corny concept.


A kid with the power of the Gods is hardly corny and hardly a concept that isn't pulling in loads of cash.

The only reason that the wheels came off at all is because National sued and then obtained the rites to the character and then shelved it because the don't want it devaluing the Superman brand.

One of the seminal works of the 80's was entirely based on it.

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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby IvCNuB4 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:37 am

BubbaKanoosh wrote:The entire concept of this book is built on a stupid idea.

Teens save a dude, so this dude makes this afterschool club into the interplanetary protective squad?

Retarded.


"Rich dude slaps masks and and an X on an afterschool club and makes them a global (and later interplanetary) protective squad" seemed to work out though :P
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Re: Giffen already leaving Legion?

Postby Juan Cena » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:52 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:
Rich dude slaps masks and and an X on an afterschool club and makes them a global (and later interplanetary) protective squad seemed to work out though :P


That's because Marvel managed the property well, for the most part. When the X-Men exploded, Marvel saw the potential of the property and ran with it. DC never did that with Legion.
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Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."


http://www.shirtswithrandomtriangles.com/

Check out Christmas in Nacirema
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