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Heroes and their returning rogues

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Re: Heroes and their returning rogues

Postby Mr. Log » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:03 am

I don't mind new villains as long as they're just being introduced. What I hate is a new villain with a hitherto unknown backstory that is completely tangled up with the hero's. "Wait, you're the one behind everything, my real arch nemesis??" :roll: Also, they need to be introduced and earn rep before being declared more dangerous and insidious than other established villains. "Even the Joker trembles at my name!!" :roll: :roll:

I also like switching up villains. There are a lot of good villains out there that would go well matching up with new foes every once in a while. Sometimes they even switch over completely and work better with the new match, ie Kingpin and Daredevil.

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Re: Heroes and their returning rogues

Postby Amoebas » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:36 pm

With a few exceptions, DCnu52's first year didn't really have all that many known bad guys.

And I'd love to see rogues get swapped. One of the reasons I don't care for Flash today is because he HAS to fight Captain Cold, he HAS to fight the other rogues, he HAS to fight Grodd.

I've always thought Grodd was a great villain but with a lousy adversary (not saying Flash is lousy, just the matchup). I'd much prefer to see him in an arc against Superman.

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Re: Heroes and their returning rogues

Postby misac » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:11 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:So at work, me and a coworker were discussing comics and I brought up the horrendous Joker story going on. I mentioned how I'd be happy if I never read another Batman (and extended family) vs Joker story ever again. Then I mention how he needs a new rogues gallery (and I brought up a few other heroes also) and he disagreed.

Then I asked him these two following questions, which answered no to both btw:

1. Would you read a title knowing full well the creative team woud use completely new rogues instead of his pre existing onexfor the next 2.5 years?

2. Would you read a title where the creative team would pull an "acts of vengeance" and have rogues from other heroes galleries (Captain America vs. Iron Man rogues, or Spidey vs Ghostrider rogues, etc etc) be in there comics instead of any of his pre existing ones for the next 2.5 years?

Well, would you?



1. Yes! But at least make them believable, the children Hellfire Club is so fucking lame. And if done right I actually prefer it, it doesn’t feel like the same old shit.

I can understand writers trying to have their version of super hero vs rogue.

2. I think they should switch villains more often. It makes sense that it would happen more often. I was going to bring up DD as a good example of this.
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Re: Heroes and their returning rogues

Postby Royal Nonesuch » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:15 pm

Comics pretty much have to come up with new villains constantly, since they always lose. Dr. Doom doesn't mean anything if he's been losing to Reed Richards for fifty years. Thus, you need someone new to be a threat. Readers and writers/editors alike have to approach villains as having a short shelf life.
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