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LOLtron wrote:Meanwhile, DC has also employed a marketing campaign featuring a bevy of different creators in connection to their latest event, Flashpoint. On DC's The Source blog, the Flashpoint Fridays feature has featured creators involved in ancillary tie-in stories explaining why anyone should give two craps about the upcoming event. Many of the answers, from industry pros such as Scott Kolins or former Vertigo editor Pornsak Pichenshote, point towards Geoff Johns involvement of the project as the main reason to stick around and see what happens in the event. Despite the involvement of over thirty creators, DC has made it clear that Geoff Johns is the one to be watching. While Johns is writing the main event, it's a little disturbing that creators are choosing to promote Johns' involvement over their own.
IGW Note: I just read all of the Flashpoint Friday releases and could only find three quotes from other creators saying that they should read the book because of Geoff Johns. So not quite true....
The second indication of the disparate talent between the two companies is the curious case of Nick Spencer. Spencer was a freelance writer who began to dip his toes in mainstream comics after establishing himself as the next big hit of the indy world. Spencer first became involved with DC, jumping on T.H.U.N.D.E.R Agents and then Supergirl. However, after only one issue it was announced that Spencer had chosen to leave Supergirl to focus on his other books. Only a short time later, Spencer went exclusive to Marvel. When asked about why he had chosen the company, it became apparent that DC's handling of Spencer on Supergirl had put him off from the company and sent him to the company which gave him more creative freedom. This sentiment was echoed by Keith Giffin, who a few months earlier had left Justice League: Generation Lost citing creative differences. While I can see why DC editors refused to budge to whatever Giffin's demands were due to the crossover nature of Generation Lost, I can't help but wonder was the issue that DC chose to make Spencer feel like he couldn't stay aboard. There seems to be a growing sentiment amongst creators (which can be seen in various interviews, especially amongst Marvel creators) that Marvel is the place to go if you want to have a greater sense of creative freedom. When was the last time that you read an interview about a DC project in which the creator said that he really got to take an idea and run with it?
IGW Note: Nick Spencer appears to be happy enough writing T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents for DC, which was given an exemption in his exclusive contract with Marvel. If he hated the company so much, why would he ask to keep writing for them?
The third indication is the sales figures, namely the amount of books that each company enjoys in the top thirty. In March 2011, DC claimed seven of the top ten spots in the sales charts. However, most of these books had shipped twice that month. Green Lantern, Brightest Day and Batman Incorporated all shipped twice. Beyond the top ten books, the disparity becomes evident. DC appears only three times in the 11-20 spots and only two more times in 21-30 spots, giving it a total of eleven of the top-selling comics of the month. Of those eleven, none are without Batman or Green Lantern, and six of them (Green Lantern, Green Lantern Corps, Green Lantern: Emerald Warrior and Brightest Day) all share common plot points penned by Geoff Johns. Marvel, meanwhile, has a diversity of titles in the sixteen books that reside in the top thirty spots. Avengers, Spider-Man, Wolverine, the X-Men, Venom, Captain America and an Ultimate title are all represented in the Top 30. Only one book, Uncanny X-Force, appears twice on the list.
IGW Note: While the figures are true, it's a bit of a stretch to say that Brightest Day has tied into Green Lantern for months now.
The final indication is actually looking at which creators are involved with which company. Marvel can boast of books being written by the likes of Warren Ellis, Waid and Rucka (the latter whom publicly left DC in 2010 in the middle of a critically acclaimed Batwoman run) as well as an exclusive contract with the hottest writer on the market today, Nick Spencer. When counting the five Architects, Marvel will be employing a total of six established top-tier writers (Bendis, Brubaker, Ellis, Fraction, Waid and Rucka) and three of the comic book industry's rising stars (Spencer, Aaron, and Hickman), all of whom are working on the biggest titles that Marvel has to offer. That's not even counting other talent such as Rick Remender and Keiron Gillen, who both have been enjoying positive reviews of late, or Rob Williams and Cullen Bunn, solid Indy writers with a resume of enjoyable books, who both look to be getting more involved with Marvel in the coming months.
IGW Note: Of those nine big-name writers, Waid, Rucka and Ellis all have committed to writing one title a piece. Who knows who long they'll last?
Meanwhile, in addition to Johns, DC has Grant Morrison, admittedly one of the top writers ever to write comics, who is making his mark on Batman (with DC starting two new books just to cater to his unique story ideas) and.....little else. JMS, a top Hollywood talent who DC wooed away from Marvel last year and was supposed to provide an injection of talent into the erstwhile company, has all but disappeared, abandoning a grounded Superman and an amnesiac Wonder Woman (with straps!) in midplot.
IGW Note: JMS is currently writing Babylon 5: Earth Two or something like that for DC since Emoman: Earth One was a smash hit and a half.
Admittedly, DC does have a smattering of new talent. There's Scott Snyder, writer of American Vampire, who is taking on a larger role in the Batbooks in the coming months and Paul Cornell, whose Action Comics run recently topped the New York Times Hardcover Graphic Novel bestseller list. However, neither Scott Snyder's Detective Comics or Paul Cornell's Action Comics placed in the thirty top selling titles of last month. I'd also venture to add Chris Roberson among that list, despite The rest of DC's writing talent is comprised of serviceable writers with cult followings (Marc Guggenheim and Gail Simone), artists turned writers (Tony Daniel and Bryan Hitch, both of whom are writing Batman titles) and Geoff Johns' purported writing buddies (JT Krul and James Robinson, who ironically helped break Johns into comic writing). While some, if not all, of these writers have definite talent, many are pigeonholed into writing low selling books with little fanfare.
IGW Note: I'd like to point out that Jonathan forgot Paul Dini, Fabian Nicieza, Bryan Miller and Judd Winick, whose easily four of my favorite writers right now. Still, thanks for playing, Johnny!
So what's the solution? I wish I could say. If it were me, I would start by recruiting some of the fresh Indy talent that Image has been churning out as of late. I'd suggest Kurtis Wiebe, the Canadian horror writer, or Nate Simpson, the video game artist that has Rich Johnston's panties wet. Then, I'd let them go wild in the sandbox. Turn Superman into a zombie. Make Wonder Woman bi-curious. Do something besides revert back to a pseudo-Silver Age (which ironically features a Justice League that doesn't feature a single Satellite Era character) continuity. If DC wants to stem the tide and prevent a major disaster when Geoff Johns inevitably burns out, it needs to make bold choices and start to move the burden of carrying the entire DC universe off his back.
IGW Note: DC, please make a Brave and the Bold comic featuring Bi-curious Wonder Woman and Zombie Superman. Please.
Thank you. I appreciate your time.
BlueStreak wrote:It's funny, Herald. I had to make Jonathan swear that he wasn't you before I posted this (and the editor's notes as well). I was almost positive that he was you.
As for your points, Herald, you (like Jonathan) can't pick and choose who you consider to be a true writer of DC. The fact remains that like any good pundit, Johnny left out a few writers that didn't fit the categories that he defined. JMS, Winick and Dini are all still writers for DC, just as Rucka, Waid and Ellis are soon to be writers for Marvel.
And while Brightest Day may be Green Lantern related, the two books have had very little to do with each other since at least January.
And no, Herald. I did not research whether Wonder Woman's sexuality had been questioned recently. I bow to your superior knowledge of bicuriousity in comic books.
You know me better than that.
My version would have been a LOT more snarky.
I didn't say anything about them not being "true writers".
I was feeding you your own pet line about writers "writing one title a piece".
As long as:
1. It's still Much Ado About LANTERNS
2. The very name "Brightest Day" is swiped directly from the GL Oath
...it has very MUCH to do with the GL book. It's still expanding on concepts the GL book started.
To be honest, the only reason I know about it is because someone mentioned it on another board.
Brightest Day may've started as a Green Lantern type book but seems to've moved on from it into more of a Captain Planet realm.
This storyline had the "Captain Planet" smell on it back when Geoff started franchising the "magic ring" concept to his Lucky Charms Corps. That's why he had to have Carol make that joke when they all tried putting their powers together to summon "Captain White Lantern".
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