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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:26 am

chap22 wrote:yet you hang your hat on the Maxx, which ran for only 13 episodes almost 20 years ago! :smt005 :smt005 :smt005

and YJ and Spectacular Spidey are/were both fantastic cartoons. it's like I'm arguing with a Special Ed kid. :smt011


I couldn't even get through an episode of Spectacular Spidey it was so crappy.

How was last weeks episode of YJ? Oh that's right, DC has so fucked up the distribution of that show we won't get it until nearly next year.

And it's good, not great, short bus.

And the point which you're still trying to ignore is that when Image does something it turns out to be pretty good more often than not. DC and Marvel crank out as much crap as they do good stuff. Roger Corman's FF anyone?

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:26 am

Punchy wrote:
I don't think it is irrelevant.


Yeah, but, Punchy your opinion is in the 1% minority 99.999% of the time.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:33 am

Punchy wrote:
I don't think it is irrelevant.


No it is, the track record was the point of the argument and Image seems to have a very high batting average when developing properties.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Punchy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:52 am

habitual wrote:
No it is, the track record was the point of the argument and Image seems to have a very high batting average when developing properties.

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But Image aren't the ones developing these properties, the individual creators are.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby chap22 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:33 pm

habitual wrote:
I couldn't even get through an episode of Spectacular Spidey it was so crappy.

How was last weeks episode of YJ? Oh that's right, DC has so fucked up the distribution of that show we won't get it until nearly next year.

And it's good, not great, short bus.

And the point which you're still trying to ignore is that when Image does something it turns out to be pretty good more often than not. DC and Marvel crank out as much crap as they do good stuff. Roger Corman's FF anyone?

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i didn't ignore anything, but perhaps you did:

chap22 wrote: :lol: :lol:

Wanted was horrendous. but then so was the source material, so...
Spawn the movie was horrendous.
WildCATS was horrendous.
Witchblade was horrendous.
Bulletproof Monk was horrendous.

the batting average ain't stellar there either.



trust me, Image (or whoever does it regarding Image properties) cranks out as much crap as they do good stuff too. the batting average ain't that great, regardless of your claims otherwise.
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Royal Nonesuch » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:18 pm

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But Image aren't the ones developing these properties, the individual creators are.


Again, the most important point in this dumbass discussion is being presented by Punchy, and it being tossed off for no good reason.

Comparing the multimedia exploitation of properties at Marvel/DC and that of Image comics is like comparing apples to your ass.
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:45 pm

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Again, the most important point in this dumbass discussion is being presented by Punchy, and it being tossed off for no good reason.

Comparing the multimedia exploitation of properties at Marvel/DC and that of Image comics is like comparing apples to your ass.


Actually that's not the case, I pointed out earlier that whatever it is they do, even if it's nothing has a higher success rate than other companies, which WAS the original point that I brought up.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:46 pm

chap22 wrote:i didn't ignore anything, but perhaps you did:




trust me, Image (or whoever does it regarding Image properties) cranks out as much crap as they do good stuff too. the batting average ain't that great, regardless of your claims otherwise.


No, you're definitely wrong, they have a higher success rate. Fewer properties (for now), but, definitely a better percentage.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby GOSD » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:01 pm

Punchy is wrong but that's normal. TWD is a fucking great show. The fact that TONS of non-comic fans are watching it is proof.

Hab is wrong. Spec. Spidey was a great show. Keep watching it. It got much better.

YJ is a good show but DC has completely fucked it with all the re-scheduling bullshit.

Marvel finally got it right with movies.

Image is hitting it out of the park. I just hope they can keep that train moving. Esp. Kirkman on his books...

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby chap22 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:01 pm

habitual wrote:
No, you're definitely wrong, they have a higher success rate. Fewer properties (for now), but, definitely a better percentage.

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No, I never said it was higher or lower than Marvel or DC. I said basically that of the Image properties released so far, as many have been crap as have been good, in contrast to your claims that their success rate is SO high. And I then listed examples.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Chris » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:11 pm

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Walking Dead isn't that good IMO, the pilot was amazing, but after that...

It gets good ratings, but so did Smallville, which lasted 10 seasons.

You can't compare the two. At all.

Smallville, as a network show, should've been getting far more viewers than it did. The only thing that saves it is CW's lower ratings bar. But it lost viewers literally every year it was on. The final two seasons were under 3 million viewers per episode.

The Walking Dead so far has not only had to fight against being a cable show... on a network nobody watches, even. But it has increase ratings every season. The premiere this year had 10 million-some viewers.

This is on a network where it's other critically acclaimed shows are in the 2-4 million range.

It's crazy, and you are wrong here.
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:14 pm

chap22 wrote:No, I never said it was higher or lower than Marvel or DC. I said basically that of the Image properties released so far, as many have been crap as have been good, in contrast to your claims that their success rate is SO high. And I then listed examples.


I know, I've been trying to drive that point home, you're just thick :twisted:

Anyway my original point is that for a much smaller company which isn't a piece of some huge conglomerate the overall quality of their output is at a higher standard.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Punchy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:16 pm

habitual wrote:
Actually that's not the case, I pointed out earlier that whatever it is they do, even if it's nothing has a higher success rate than other companies, which WAS the original point that I brought up.

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But they have nothing to do with the success, Image and Marvel are not responsible for Wanted or Kick-Ass becoming movies, Mark Millar is.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:34 pm

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But they have nothing to do with the success, Image and Marvel are not responsible for Wanted or Kick-Ass becoming movies, Mark Millar is.


If they're not fucking it up it has everything to do with it.

That's half of success right there, not fucking up a good thing.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Chris » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:39 pm

There's nothing to fuck up if they have NOTHING to do with the process.
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