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Tee-Roy'd wrote:If you really think about it though going back want really change anything, because the titles that were good before the change are still mostly good and the titles that were bad before the change are still bad.
Batman and his line up of book are as good if not better than before the DCnU took effect. Same thing can be said for the Green Lantern line.
I have been arguing something similar but I have been using it against the relaunch. Basically most of the new 52 books that are good are all books that could have existed before the relaunch. The Batman family of books, Aquaman, Animal Man, Swamp Thing, the Green Lantern books all could have existed without the relaunch and they would have benefited from being able to exist in a universe with familiar and likable characters.
Justice League was and had been one of DC's worst books before the change and even though it's bad right now it is no where near as bad as before.
I disagree. As bad as things were before, you still had familiar and likable characters. Now you have characters who look similar to the Justice League but behave like elitist snobs while the title itself is going nowhere. Plus, before the relaunch we still had Wally West, the JSA, and happily married characters.
If things went back to the way they were before we would lose really good books like Animal Man and Swamp Thing that didn't exist before the change over to DCnU.
Swamp Thing easily could have started at any time after Blackest Night/Brightest Day. Same could be said for Animal Man. Nothing that is happening in either of those titles couldn't have happened in the proper DCU.
So while yes some of the things right now are pretty crappy with DC's current line of books, but just because some are bad doesn't mean the entire line should be scrapped and then put back into the same stagnant, stale, and boring books we had before.
If this relaunch has taught us anything, it's that any book can become stagnant, stale, and boring if you don't put a writer who understands and/or cares about the characters he/she is writing. We didn't need the relaunch to reinvigorate Aquaman, we just needed a guy who understood a way to show the fans that the only reason he was as bad as he was, is because the fans looked at him that way. For as terrible as Johns had made the Justice League, he has breathed new life into Aquaman.
Snyder and Lemire have created an epic story in Swamp Thing and Animal Man but they didn't need the relaunch to do it because they understand something about the characters and their world that makes them great.
Now look at Scott Lobdell. You want to tell me that any of the Teen Titans or Starfire are better off because of the reboot? What about Hawkman? Firestorm? The Martian Manhunter? Captain Marvel?
I don't mind change. I don't mind it when writers take risks but most of the changes that were made to the DCU were simply for the sake of change.