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by **LOLtron** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:56 pm

Marvel CCO Joe Quesada changes his opinion on Marvel cosmic, loves Rocket Raccoon!

It's a widely accepted opinion among fans that Marvel CCO Joe Quesada does not understand Marvel's cosmic Universe. In a search to find quotable proof for this article, I was unable to uncover a single shred of evidence to support this statement. I had no problems, however, finding people making reference to it on various message boards ranging back to the relaunch of Marvel's cosmic universe in 2006 with Anihilation. Signs seem to point to some unnamed edition of the Joe Friday's Q&A column that Quesada used to do on Newsarama before all traces of Pre-Imaginova 'Rama were eradicated in a great purging that destroyed many of the great historical records of the internet comics community.

In any case, despite finding nothing other than praise for the cosmic universe and its characters, we're going to go with the position that Marvel cosmic editor Andy Schmidt had to convince Joey Q that the cosmic universe was viable once upon a time as made reference to in a Joe Fridays interview that will never again see the light of day, because the headline "Joe Quesada: Raccoon Lover, or Poseur?" is the kind of headline that only comes along once in a lifetime, and I refuse to give it up.

So, with Joe's contempt for all things cosmic established, why is he now professing his love for anthromorphic raccoons in this interview at MTV Geek about the art of Marvel NOW?

I want draw anything that has Rocket Raccoon in it! You give me Rocket Raccoon, I'm a happy man. I love that damn raccoon, I love the Guardians, so that's the one I'm jealous over.

Yes, Joe. Me want draw Rocket Raccoon too! Rocket Raccoon gooood. But the issue at hand is, when did Joe become such a big fan of a universe he needed to be sold on in the first place?

The obvious answer is that Joe Quesada is a Rocket Raccoon poseur. He wasn't into the character back when it was cool. Only now, after Disney executives have filled Joe in on the magic Disney formula of "Talking Animals = $$$$" has Joe changed his tune and professed his longstanding fandom for the popular cult character.

Well, The Outhouse is onto you, Joe Quesada. You may have everyone fooled with your scrubbing of all record of your alleged anti-cosmic statements from the internet, and the careful placement of praise for the old Guardians of the Galaxy into articles written before the new team was even created, but it's not fooling ol' Jude Terror. I'm watching you.

For more of Joe's posing, check out the interview with him about the art he drew for Marvel NOW, which talks about the character designs featured in the now infamous Entertainment Weekly piece which broke the story of the Marvel creative shakeup, unless you count the months of spoiling on Bleeding Cool. And if any of you readers have an archive of the old Joe Friday's columns from Newsarama, let me know so I can put some closure on the half hour of google searching I did in preparation for this article.

UPDATE: Outhouse correspondent nerdyboy has located some quotes from newer Cup O' Joe articles on MySpace that both prove Joe's poseurdom and give this reporter a severe google inadequacy complex. Check out the comments section for details.

Written or Contributed by: Jude Terror

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by **sdsichero** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:09 pm

LOLtron wrote:It's a widely accepted opinion among fans that Marvel CCO Joe Quesada does not understand Marvel's cosmic Universe. In a search to find quotable proof for this article, I was unable to uncover a single shred of evidence to support this statement. I had no problems, however, finding people making reference to it on various message boards ranging back to the relaunch of Marvel's cosmic universe in 2006 with Anihilation.

MYCUP O’ JOE, WEEK 11: Quesada talks Marvel market share, event expectations, and more!

An example I've used way too often are the cosmic stories. I've never been a fan of them, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe that there are people out there who like them. So, since Annihilation we've been knee-deep in cosmic stuff. Even though it's not my favorite segment of the Marvel U., it's proven to be a huge success for us.

DRAW HIM IN ANNIHILATION OUTFIT QUESADA!!!

EDIT: He also says he is not the authority of that realm...

MYCUP O’ JOE, WEEK 3: Skrull roll call! Joe Quesada reveals exclusive SECRET INVASION 2 pages!

JQ: Hey there, whos_the_champ, I’m not the authority on the world of Marvel Cosmic,

So maybe "not understand" is wrong, but there was a previous lack of enthusiasm for them.

by **Gladiator X** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:10 pm

Godz, how I hate Quesada. Thank you for exposing the truth about him and his posuerdom.

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:23 pm

sdsichero wrote:
MYCUP O’ JOE, WEEK 11: Quesada talks Marvel market share, event expectations, and more!

DRAW HIM IN ANNIHILATION OUTFIT QUESADA!!!

EDIT: He also says he is not the authority of that realm...

MYCUP O’ JOE, WEEK 3: Skrull roll call! Joe Quesada reveals exclusive SECRET INVASION 2 pages!

So maybe "not understand" is wrong, but there was a previous lack of enthusiasm for them.

Nerdyboy, you are the man.

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:25 pm

SO if Joe has never been a fan of the characters, why does he say this in 2006:

"I am front-row-center for this party," enthuses Marvel Editor-In-Chief Joe Quesada. "Andy's more than right to point out that these space guys have not been given a proper spotlight lately…but hey! Ya can't keep good, nay, GREAT characters down at ol' Marvel, and this one's chock fulla great characters! Now, if only I could convince Andy and his gang to use the Guardians of the Galaxy…"

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/story/59/annihil ... z1zn1LHPiI

We're onto you, Joe!

by **sdsichero** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:27 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:SO if Joe has never been a fan of the characters, why does he say this in 2006:

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/story/59/annihil ... z1zn1LHPiI

We're onto you, Joe!

Quesda is Mitt Romney?

ROMney?

:shock:

by **Royal Nonesuch** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:31 pm

HOW DARE SOMEBODY NOT HAVE THE SAME OPINION ON SOMETHING THEY HAD SIX YEARS AGO!!!

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:32 pm

Royal Nonesuch wrote:HOW DARE SOMEBODY NOT HAVE THE SAME OPINION ON SOMETHING THEY HAD SIX YEARS AGO!!!

by **sdsichero** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:36 pm

Royal Nonesuch wrote:HOW DARE SOMEBODY NOT HAVE THE SAME OPINION ON SOMETHING THEY HAD SIX YEARS AGO!!!

Well the two quotes by him on cup o joe were two years apart. The latter being 2008. So four years.

And yes, that is a high crime.

by **Gladiator X** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:37 pm

Royal Nonesuch wrote:HOW DARE SOMEBODY NOT HAVE THE SAME OPINION ON SOMETHING THEY HAD SIX YEARS AGO!!!

There is something to be said for consistency, y'know?

by **Royal Nonesuch** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:42 pm

Gladiator X wrote:

There is something to be said for consistency, y'know?

I've always believed that. I've never changed my mind on anything, ever.

by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:45 pm

Yeah, but what has happened in Marvel cosmic in that span of time to change his mind except this relaunch with the intent to lay the groundwork to make a movie? They haven't even really been publishing any.

by **sdsichero** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:50 pm

Gladiator X wrote:

There is something to be said for consistency, y'know?

Say it in Thor-speak so it's more impressive.

by **GHERU** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:28 pm

so, the man who admits to not being a fan of something produces three and a half major events focusing on that thing because he knows there are fans

what a fucking douchebag!

by **Chris** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:49 pm

It's good business for a CCO of a company to say certain characters are shit and he doesn't like 'em, right before it's announced they will get a movie.

You guys are totally right - he should've stuck to his guns!