fieldy snuts wrote:Bullshit. JMS was 100% onboard with it but he wanted an even bigger reboot reaching back to ASM #100 to undo Gwen Stacy's death and affect everything in Marvel's continuity.
First, I've heard that "undo Stacy's death" stuff before, and I've yet to find Straczynski himself quoted on it. It's always Quesada saying this was the writer's intent. Could be JMS didn't want to discuss the matter when asked, I don't know. I always figured that if JMS had
suggested it, it was a joke that people took too seriously, or a kind of "hey, if we're gonna do something crazy-stupid, let's go full crazy-stupid!". But for the sake of the argument, let's say that was his plan. Secondly, the two were famously at odds on the story. JMS wanted his name off the last two issues, but was talked out of it.
I invite you to watch this video, at least the first minute (because the other half deals with Aunt May and is not relevant to the subject at hand): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Ch3rrDH4k
Essentially, J. Michael was told early on that his run would end with the dissolution of the marriage, and he didn't care for the idea. That's not 100% on board.
Quesada wanted a more surgical reboot where instances of married couple are replaced with "boyfriend/girlfriend" to make the separation post-OMD easier instead of a divorce.
Because "boyfriend and girlfriend living together and having a marriage-like relationship without the official ceremony and paperwork" works perfectly, but "officially married" somehow spells storytelling poison? Sorry, man. Not buying it. Only a less talented writer (or short-sighted EICs) are unable (rather, unwilling) to make a comic character's marriage work.
Altering the marriage at all alters the continuity. For Straczynski's version they could've just used the famous, "it's magic, we don't have to explain it" line to make it work...just like they did with Quesada's version. That's not surgical, it's omitting details that are too hard to sort out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly thrilled with the whole "Gwen lives" concept, but given the OMD (and BND) we got...I can't imagine it would've been worse.
In the end it happened, they split up, Peter Parker was single again and not weighed down storyline wise with a marriage and life went on for almost 150+ issues of Amazing and many more of every associated title.
And as far as Amazing's concerned, they weren't very good (see previous rant). There's still nothing pointing to the marriage having weighed him down. In fact, JMS famously posted the sales figures of the book after he left.
it might only have been 6 years ago, but in terms of stories told it has been generations ago.
Because they went tri-monthly? Yeah, that doesn't erase readers' memory of the marriage or the stink of OMD out of people's minds. If it did, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Honestly, I think a 3-book-a-month deadline is part of what made the stories suffer.
By rigging the game. It's easy to win when you make and can change the rules to fit your wants.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to fault you for preferring Spider-bachelor. If you prefer it that way, cool. I'm simply saying that marriage does not mean a character can't have good and interesting stories.
Also that Quesada is a dumbass, but mostly the marriage-stories thing.
What the heck is that "Batwoman" header doing in this thread?!