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[draco x]

I'll go you one better, which I read about in Marvel Comics: The Untold Story. According the Whilce Portacio, he and Jim Lee replaced Chris Claremont as the X-Men plotters because the editor "hated everything that Chris said." That's right, Claremont was actually demoted to scripter because the editor thought that he knew better than a guy who turned the X-Men from a cancelled title into the best selling franchise and a multimedia juggernaut.

That editor, of course, was Bob Harras.

And the rest-as the saying goes-is history.

[chap22]

Considering that Bedard sucks, then yes.

Negation, R.E.B.E.L.S., Spidey: Breakout, and assorted other stuff says you're an idiot.

[Lord Ice]

Was Bedard's pitch that bad?

Outsiders have always been bad no matter who writes them.

[e_galston]

Negation, R.E.B.E.L.S., Spidey: Breakout, and assorted other stuff says you're an idiot.

you could have just said the last 4 words... you didn't have to give any examples... everyone knows Nacireman has no taste...

[Juan Cena]

Outsiders have always been bad no matter who writes them.

The first few issues of the original book w/ Mike W. Barr were pretty good.

[draco x]

The first few issues of the original book w/ Mike W. Barr were pretty good.

Plus the 2000's incarnation with Nightwing as the team leader lasted 50 issues as well.

[doombug]

Anyone know who got fucked like this?

Art and Franco.

[e_galston]

Art and Franco.

seriously???

[doombug]

seriously???

Franco wrote this on twitter about 8 hours ago: Wow. Twitter was crazy today. I guess it's true.

And Sterling Gates was the first to drop the bombshell. Not to mention Waid is friends with the guys and has done several signings at their shop.

I'd say this is worse than the Simone thing because they had no idea and it's a fucking all ages book. Really classless of DC.

[e_galston]

Franco wrote this on twitter about 8 hours ago: Wow. Twitter was crazy today. I guess it's true.

And Sterling Gates was the first to drop the bombshell. Not to mention Waid is friends with the guys and has done several signings at their shop.

I'd say this is worse than the Simone thing because they had no idea and it's a fucking all ages book. Really classless of DC.

that is horrible. Especially to the two creators who probably single handedly kept the all ages line going the last few years...

[Zechs]

Considering that Bedard sucks, then yes.

The pitch wasn't bad. Editors sliced it to ribbons. It was like two months of set-up with special one-shots detailing how Batman chose each Outsider over another candidate. In the end Salvation Run killed Bedard's proposal because top brass behind DC thought it be better used as an event than a Elseworlds tale. So bye bye Boomer, Catwoman, and Martian Manhunter.

It's still amazing that Chuck Dixon churned out an enjoyable first few issues since all he had for prep time was a month.

[Zechs]

Franco wrote this on twitter about 8 hours ago: Wow. Twitter was crazy today. I guess it's true.

And Sterling Gates was the first to drop the bombshell. Not to mention Waid is friends with the guys and has done several signings at their shop.

I'd say this is worse than the Simone thing because they had no idea and it's a fucking all ages book. Really classless of DC.

WTF?!

[e_galston]

I'm really surprised Bleedingcool hasn't picked up that about them finding out by previews/twitter

[doombug]

I'm really surprised Bleedingcool hasn't picked up that about them finding out by previews/twitter

I saw an article earlier talking about the stealth cancellation. But Gates/Waid are really the only 2 i've seen reacting so far.

[chap22]

Plus the 2000's incarnation with Nightwing as the team leader lasted 50 issues as well.

Yeah but all 50 were shitty.