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New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby Frag » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:05 pm

The only time I have liked a Bendis-written Avengers in the last few years was when Deodato was the artist. He seems to bring out the best in Bendis, this was no exception.

Ok, the issue wasn't perfect. I'll get to the stupidity later, but I really enjoyed the Avengers actually fighting for once and not talking about it. I liked Luke Cage getting his ass handed to him. I really used to like Luke Cage but hate him now. I hate that he leads the Avengers and I hate Wolverine saying "we can't win this fight without him." Really? Luke Cage is that important? And please don't tell me it's because the Dark Avengers have a Hulk, because Wolverine doesn't back down from the real Hulk.

The battle was really well done. I enjoyed Spider-Man kicking some ass (though I could've done without another bad breath joke). Bendis really does respect Spidey's character. Same with Daredevil. I liked Daredevil barking out some orders. It was cool to see him in that role.

So a good knockdown, bare knuckles brawl between heroes and villains to start off the issue. What could go wrong?

Well the ending was stupid. The Avengers retreated. In other words, they lost, again. This team has more losses than the Shocker. And it wasn't a tactical retreat. They weren't going to return to the fight. They ran. That annoys me. These characters would all die before they let villains escape. That really pissed me off. What they did was pull a villain move by creating an illusion to trick the Dark Avengers. Lame. Also, if Osborn's team could beat them, why not have Clor with him in the battle instead of sicking him on the Avengers at the end of the issue?

So like I said, it was fun to actually see the Avengers do something and the art was great, but Bendis pulled back from making this a truly great issue.

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby Frag » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:06 pm

Apologies to Punchy if he's already reviewed this.
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby GHERU » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:12 pm

between last issue and this one I already forgot who "Ms. Marvel", "Spider-Maan", and "Scarlet Witch" actually are
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby Frag » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:18 pm

GHERU wrote:between last issue and this one I already forgot who "Ms. Marvel", "Spider-Maan", and "Scarlet Witch" actually are


:lol:

Me too.
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:59 pm

Question: do you purposely make comic threads in the asylum so mods have to move it?

ps: I'm getting bored with this story.

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby Frag » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:25 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:Question: do you purposely make comic threads in the asylum so mods have to move it?

ps: I'm getting bored with this story.


The mods move my threads?

I put it in the Asylum to make sure people actually see it.
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:07 pm

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby MistaT » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:12 pm

I enjoyed Iron Fist knocking the shit out of Skaar. 8)

That was pretty much it. :smt102

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby Porcelain38 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:43 pm

I wonder what would happen if I ever Iron Fisted a Hulk? :smt011

That has to be the stupidest line I've read in a comic book in a long long long time.

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:53 pm

Porcelain38 wrote:I wonder what would happen if I ever Iron Fisted a Hulk? :smt011

That has to be the stupidest line I've read in a comic book in a long long long time.


Yeah, it wasn't that great a line. :lol:

Overall I did like this issue though.
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby pat » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:45 pm

I don't get it. This is post-FI, haven't they all forgotten who Thor is? How would they know that's a Thor clone?
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby 48THRiLLS » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:08 pm

pat wrote:I don't get it. This is post-FI, haven't they all forgotten who Thor is? How would they know that's a Thor clone?

I read it as they did know it was a clone... I don't have the issue in front of me but doesn't Spidey say '..and they have a Thor too?' or something like that.
I liked this ish, it was fun. Spider-Man asking the the impostor Spider-Man if he had Spidey sense made me laugh.

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby GHERU » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:18 pm

48THRiLLS wrote:I read it as they did know it was a clone... I don't have the issue in front of me but doesn't Spidey say '..and they have a Thor too?' or something like that.
I liked this ish, it was fun. Spider-Man asking the the impostor Spider-Man if he had Spidey sense made me laugh.
but pat's question is how does Spider-Man know that the DA having a Thor makes sense like they have versions of everyone else since everyone has forgotten Thor ever existed, let alone that he was an Avenger
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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby 48THRiLLS » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:35 pm

GHERU wrote:but pat's question is how does Spider-Man know that the DA having a Thor makes sense like they have versions of everyone else since everyone has forgotten Thor ever existed, let alone that he was an Avenger

ahhh... I gotcha.... idk, magic?

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Re: New Avengers #20 (spoilers)

Postby pat » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:54 pm

GHERU wrote:but pat's question is how does Spider-Man know that the DA having a Thor makes sense like they have versions of everyone else since everyone has forgotten Thor ever existed, let alone that he was an Avenger



this.

bendis, u dum.
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