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by **avengingtitan** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:34 am

doombug wrote:I read the first 6 issues in one sitting, it still feels like an elseworlds but honestly? The core of the characters is still there and the voices are on point.

I just had Lobdell on the podcast too and it sounds like a few things could be changing in the book soon.

Unless its the creative team its not gonna help.

by **doombug** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:47 am

avengingtitan wrote:Unless its the creative team its not gonna help.

Listen to the interview. Lobdell specifically said and thought that there was stuff from the old continuity he could use, editorial corrected him.

The writing on the book is strong, that's very much the Tim from before and honestly? Bunker isn't a stereotypical guy man. I could easily see him causing trouble with Devil and Beetle from before. :smt102

by **avengingtitan** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:40 am

doombug wrote:Listen to the interview. Lobdell specifically said and thought that there was stuff from the old continuity he could use, editorial corrected him.

The writing on the book is strong, that's very much the Tim from before and honestly? Bunker isn't a stereotypical guy man. I could easily see him causing trouble with Devil and Beetle from before.

Dude Bunker is not just 1 sterotype he's 2 thats worse. The only question I want someone to ask is what happened to Lobdell's ability to write a decent story. His Tim is kinda the same as before but thats one character in 2 books.

by **doombug** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:53 am

Bunker isn't a stereotype. I mean sure, it's pretty damn obvious where the kid is from but he's a teenager, he's going to talk a certain way with the culture and personality he grew up in.

And just go listen to the podcast, it might change your mind on a few things. :smt102

by **holtom2000** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:46 pm

GLX wrote:
Yep.

As bizarre as it was, Cry for Justice is better than Geoff John's JLA. It's just so....bland.

Johns pre infinite crisis arc was a million times better
And morrison's darkseid arc was a million times better
Johns dropped the ball

by **alaska1125** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:06 pm

Is this a case of "time eases all memories" or something? Cry For Justice was awful...Godawful. It will always be one of the worst editorially mandated Justice League stories I have ever read. Ever. Robinson should have just Watchmen'd that shit and used analogues as not a single cast member acted in character. Ugh. Pure dreck. This coming from someone who would have walked into he desert with Robinson after Starman.

by **avengingtitan** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:33 pm

doombug wrote:Bunker isn't a stereotype. I mean sure, it's pretty damn obvious where the kid is from but he's a teenager, he's going to talk a certain way with the culture and personality he grew up in.

And just go listen to the podcast, it might change your mind on a few things.

No it wont. Lobdell needs to retire and someone needs to "accidentally" shut a car door on Booths hands. Seriously Booths art is Liefeld levels of awfulness.

They should have used Hero Cruz instead of Bunker. Now there was a character that was a thousand times better then Bunker.

by **holtom2000** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:08 pm

That's funny as booth was kind of a dick when this title came out

by **Lord Ice** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:31 pm

holtom2000 wrote:That's funny as booth was kind of a dick when this title came out

You have to be a dick when fantrolls are being a dick to you. :-D

by **holtom2000** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:17 pm

Lord Ice wrote:
You have to be a dick when fantrolls are being a dick to you.

Touché

by **Herald** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:40 pm

avengingtitan wrote:Unless the next big thing is them going back to the proper dcu then I dont care.

Cat-Scratch wrote:Herald must be laughing right now.

Nah. I'm nodding my head, as shown above.

I'm saving my laughter for when the DCnU hype dies down for good, and all this crap finally goes down in flames. :twisted:

by **avengingtitan** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:37 pm

Lord Ice wrote:
You have to be a dick when fantrolls are being a dick to you.

Well maybe if his art didnt suck donkey dick people wouldnt bash him. :smt102

by **Herald** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:32 pm

doombug wrote:I'll back you up on this. When Robinson gets on b-c list characters and runs with them, he can do some really amazing work.

Try telling that to the B-C List characters he killed off in Cry for Justice.
Try telling that to the lady in my avatar, and the rest of the characters he clumsily wrote in his Justice League run.

I don't want that ridiculously incompetent "JUSTICE!!" Robinson near ANY more such characters.

by **GLX** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:44 pm

Herald wrote:
Try telling that to the B-C List characters he killed off in Cry for Justice.
Try telling that to the lady in my avatar, and the rest of the characters he clumsily wrote in his Justice League run.

I don't want that ridiculously incompetent "JUSTICE!!" Robinson near ANY more such characters.

Editorial had a major hand in that story.
I didn't love or hate his take on her.

The "JUSTICE!" lines were, are and will still remain stupid.

by **Herald** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:53 pm

GLX wrote:
Editorial had a major hand in that story.

He took the writing credit and the paycheck for the story??
Then he takes the blame, too.

As much as I dislike much of what Gerard Jones wrote for DC, I respect him for one thing above all else: When DC Editorial told him to ruin Hal Jordan's reputation in what would be "Emerald Twilight", he said NO, and walked away from the book. Clearly, "JUSTICE!!" Robinson wouldn't do such a thing.