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ThatGuyRoman

dINGO

Postby ThatGuyRoman » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:48 am

Jack Burton wrote:I haven't read the book but anyone who reads Marvel Comics and complains about how radiation works can kindly fuck off.

Radiation in the Marvel Universe is pretty much magic and has been since the 60's.



It's not cancer, it's just a superpower sac. Right, doc? RIGHT?
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:16 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:I think people take everything too far, but I'd be lying if I wasn't I guess, disgusted would be the word I could use, when I heard about Avengers Arena. It's offensively pandering to devoted readers of several franchises.


I just settled for not reading it, rather than spending all my time complaining about it.



Marvel doesn't owe you, or any other "devoted readers" anything though.
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ThatGuyRoman

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Postby ThatGuyRoman » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:43 pm

dairydead wrote:

Marvel doesn't owe you, or any other "devoted readers" anything though.



I never say they did. I'm saying you can't be THAT shocked that people are offended by the concept. Which is the whole impetus of this discussion.

The book could be good, who knows, but sight unseen, just going by the concept alone, I have no qualms about people who have spent countless dollars supporting certain books and character having an issue with how those characters are being used.

Should they have a say in things? Not really, it's all in the company's hands, as it should be. But I think their complaints still have a limited amount of validity, even if silly and over-dramatic.

Sure you can say "but it's a comic book, who cares?" But that's just the tear. Some people do care. That's why they buy the books in the first place, despite it being a very expensive and often times unrewarding hobby.
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:51 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:

I never say they did. I'm saying you can't be THAT shocked that people are offended by the concept. Which is the whole impetus of this discussion.


Im not "shocked" that people are offended by the concept, only annoyed. Characters die in literature all the time, characters we grow to like. Having Romeo and Juliet die at the end of the story doesn't make it "terrible" or "offensive", its just that social networking and tumblr has elevated "fandom" into weird, juvenile, cultish groups who obsess over characters so much that when they die, it becomes a huge ordeal.
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ThatGuyRoman

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Postby ThatGuyRoman » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:00 pm

I'm bothered more by the creatively bankrupt aspect of it (Hey, people like Hunger Games, we have a bunch of teen heroes we aren't using ... LET'S DO THIS SHIT!) that annoys me more than the possibility of killing off some random teen character I probably don't really care for anyway.

But I suppose that's just me being nitpicky. :lol:
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:02 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:

I never say they did. I'm saying you can't be THAT shocked that people are offended by the concept. Which is the whole impetus of this discussion.

The book could be good, who knows, but sight unseen, just going by the concept alone, I have no qualms about people who have spent countless dollars supporting certain books and character having an issue with how those characters are being used.

Should they have a say in things? Not really, it's all in the company's hands, as it should be. But I think their complaints still have a limited amount of validity, even if silly and over-dramatic.

Sure you can say "but it's a comic book, who cares?" But that's just the tear. Some people do care. That's why they buy the books in the first place, despite it being a very expensive and often times unrewarding hobby.


I see what you mean, and I am right there with you on this for the most part. I was pissed when they killed off Blue Beetle years ago.

The difference is, with the advent of tumblr, we've been exposed to this sort of perversion of fan culture. Its a community of preteens who are still developing adult emotions, who latch onto things they like, share it, and spread it to others with similar interests. The problem is that its such a community of "patting each other on the back" that putting these teens together creates an overly-addicted and obsessive culture, where everything relies on the approval of each other, and focuses on like-minded people just circle jerking.

So basically tumblr is a steroid for any fan community, but just propagated by children who have a very poor understanding of what a fan community really is.

its a rant, i know, but thats why you see some of the most radical, outlandish, obnoxious conjecture out of tumblr. Its a bunch of know-it-all kids who are mad at their parents that "dont get them" and foster each other on the internet. There's a reason that there is an entire tumblr, with hundreds of subscribers that devoted to exposing how racist my white friend is for cosplaying the cartoon character Korra.
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:03 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:I'm bothered more by the creatively bankrupt aspect of it (Hey, people like Hunger Games, we have a bunch of teen heroes we aren't using ... LET'S DO THIS SHIT!) that annoys me more than the possibility of killing off some random teen character I probably don't really care for anyway.

But I suppose that's just me being nitpicky. :lol:


nah, thats totally legit. I think it is possible for it to be done well though, so im willing to give it a shot.
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ThatGuyRoman

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Postby ThatGuyRoman » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:25 pm

Yeah, I see what you mean. It's why I don't use tumblr ... for anything other than porn.
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:58 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:Yeah, I see what you mean. It's why I don't use tumblr ... for anything other than porn.


Im the exact same way. I posted some of my art there, and got annoyed, so its porn only from now on.
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GLX

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Postby GLX » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:41 pm

Punchy wrote:Image

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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:39 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:
You give people what they want, but do so in a demeaning or insulting way.

Like offering all the drug addicts in the world a their fix of choice, but only if they can dig through this pile of elephant crap to get to it.

Feel free to disagree all you want, but I think that of all the ridiculous things comic fans bitch about, I don't think a series that potentially pisses all over several franchises with extremely loyal/devoted fans is THAT unreasonable.


I just think that pandering is, by definition, giving fans what they want, which is not what Avengers Arena.

I have no problem with people getting upset when their favourite characters bite it, I myself get annoyed by it, but the level of it on Tumblr is just ridiculous and hilarious and tragic.

There's no need to care THIS MUCH is all.
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:50 pm

Punchy wrote:
I just think that pandering is, by definition, giving fans what they want, which is not what Avengers Arena.

I have no problem with people getting upset when their favourite characters bite it, I myself get annoyed by it, but the level of it on Tumblr is just ridiculous and hilarious and tragic.

There's no need to care THIS MUCH is all.


BUT THE FEELS! WHO WILL HAVE GAY SEX NOW!??!?! I JUST... I DONT EVEN....
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:10 pm

dairydead wrote:
BUT THE FEELS! WHO WILL HAVE GAY SEX NOW!??!?! I JUST... I DONT EVEN....


MAH BBs!
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ElijahSnowFan

cheese

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:16 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I haven't read the book but anyone who reads Marvel Comics and complains about how radiation works can kindly fuck off.

Radiation in the Marvel Universe is pretty much magic and has been since the 60's.


This is true, and yet, reading it aloud is still just about the funniest thing ever. :-D :-D :-D :-D
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ElijahSnowFan

cheese

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:22 pm

I'm going to read this book, at least for a few issues, because here's the deal: If Marvel doesn't like how it's going, this is easily one of those series that will get cancelled quickly and forgotten.

Nothing in this series will matter one second longer than when Brian Michael Bendis or Jeph Loeb or Jonathan Hickman decide to use, say, X-23 or Mettle or whoever, is told the character was killed in Avengers Arena, and their response is, "Yeah, well, this is comic books, and I'm just not giving a fuck about that."

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