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Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GLX » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:27 pm

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New year! New review group! New New Avengers #1! Let's get to it!


New Avengers #1

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Jonathan Hickman (W) •Steve Epting (A)
Cover by JOCK
Variant Cover by J. Scott Campbell
SKETCH VARIANT BY J. SCOTT CAMPBELL
Variant Cover by STEVE EPTING
Young Baby Variant by SKOTTIE YOUNG
Blank Cover Also Available
To prevent the collision of our universe with another, the Illuminati, led by the Black Panther, must assemble NOW! It's the most powerful and brilliant team in the Marvel Universe--The Black Panther, Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Black Bolt, Mister Fantastic, Namor the Sub-Mariner and The Beast--against an infinite legion of parallel realities.
32 PGS. /Rated T+ ...$3.99


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Ze rules:

Review as often or as little as you like. Once you've posted 5 reviews, you will be awarded 1 pick. You can post 5 reviews, right? That's a totally achievable goal and with day and date digital releases becoming the standard, it shouldn't matter if your shop ordered enough copies of this weeks comic or not.

When multiple Review Groupers have posted 5 (or more) qualifying reviews, they will be awarded their pick in the order that they qualified. What constitutes a qualifying review? Any review posted (with a score on a scale from 0-10, that's right 0!) within 1 calendar month of the thread going live. Reviews are to be at least 5 sentences long. It shows that a) you have at least read this week's pick and b) you have some unique insight into the comic.

Reviews posted while waiting in line for your pick will be applied to your next pick.

I'll be keeping track of everyone's progress with the newly christened Spreadsheet of Fantastic (RIP, Spreadsheet of Doom) and reporting the results in the Current Members list in the weekly OP. When it's your turn to make a pick, I will PM you. If you do not respond to me by Midnight EST the following Sunday, you will lose your pick and I will start a poll to determine that week's selection.

Any week in which we do not have a Review Grouper with 5 qualifying picks, we will determine the week's comic via poll.

If it's your week to pick, remember to keep it under $3.99.

Naturally, this new system is new and it may be necessary to make changes as we go.

I have next week's pick. It'll be revealed by week's end.

Suggestions welcome.


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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GLX » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:29 pm

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001. Daredevil #82 - 8.13
002. Exiles #77 - 6.29
003. Jonah Hex #5 - 6.26
004. American Virgin #1 - 7.7
005. Birds of Prey #92 - 6.41
006. Squadron Supreme #1 - 7.66
007. Blue Beetle #1 - 5.95
008. Aquaman: SoA #41 - 6.67
009. DMZ #6 - 7.65
010. Captain America #17 - 7.43
011. Thing #6 - 7.03
012. Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #8 - 7.68
013. Cable & Deadpool #28 - 7.45
014. Fell #5 - 8.81
015. X-Factor #7 - 7.84
016. My Inner Bimbo #1 - 6.38
017. Wonder Woman #1 - 7.3
018. Green Lantern Corps #1 - 5.65
019. Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #1 - 5.38
020. New Avengers #21 - 6.12
021. Detective Comics #821 - 8.05
022. Ultimate Spider-Man #97 - 7.86
023. Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters #1 - 4.17
024. Batman #655 - 7.69
025. Usagi Yojimbo #95 - 6.41
026. Sonic the Hedgehog #165 - 6.5
027. The Boys #1 - 7.3
028. Heroes for Hire #1 - 6.25
029. Ultimate Fantastic Four #33 - 5.75
030. Local #6 - 9.1
031. Thunderbolts #106 - 6.14
032. Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. #8 - 8.34
033. True Story, Swear to God #1 - 7.69
034. Criminal #1 - 7.63
035. Fables #1/#54 - 8.83
036. WildCats #1 - 6.51
037. Action Comics #844 - 7.22
038. Incredible Hulk #100 - 7.5
039. Franklin Richards, Son of a Genius: Happy Franksgiving - 4.32
040. Texas Chainsaw Massacre #1 - 4.34
041. Punisher War Journal #1 - 6.54
042. Immortal Iron Fist #1 - 7.35
043. Spider-Man: Reign #1 - 4.79
044. The Spirit #1 - 7.67
045. New Avengers: Illuminati #1 - 7.33
046. Winter Soldier: Winter Kills - 8.27
047. Amazing Spider-Man #537 - 6.94
048. Thunderbolts #110 - 6.75
049. Red Menace #3 - 7.43
050. Moon Knight #7 - 5.86
051. Ultimate Civil War Spider-Ham Crisis #1 - 6.21
052. Action Comics Annual #10 - 7.87
052. All New Atom #8 - 6.98
052. Dark Tower #1 - 8.61
052. Fantastic Four: The End #5 - 8.55
052. Fell #7 - 9.03
052. newuniversal #3 - 8.13
052. Pirates of Coney Island #4 - 7.93
052. Ultimate Spider-Man #105 - 7.7
052. Uncanny X-Men #483 - 6.47
053. Batman #663 - 3.83
054. Civil War #7 - 7.2
055. Runaways #24 - 9.01
056. Punisher MAX #45 - 7.47
057. Blade #7 - 6.08
058. Army@Love #1 - 6.38
059. Blue Beetle #13 - 6.4
060. Avengers: The Initiative #1 - 7.27
061. Nova #1 - 6.92
062. Cable & Deadpool #39 - 5.92
063. Catwoman #66 - 7.06
064. 52 Week Fifty-Two - 7.15
065. Countdown #51 - 6.8
066. Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #12 - 6.31
067. Captain America #26 - 8.28
068. Witchblade #106 - 5.81
069. Invincible #42 - 8.35
070. Sub-Mariner #1 - 5.54
071. Highwaymen #1 - 7.87
072. Superman/Batman #37 - 4.6
073. Dynamo 5 #5 - 6.28
074. Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #1 - 6.63
075. Lone Ranger #7 - 7.54
076. X-Men #201 - 4.76
077. Metal Men #1 - 6.18
078. Green Lantern #22 - 7.85
079. Pilot Season: Ripclaw - 5.89
080. X-Men: First Class #3 - 7.53
081. Teen Titans #50 - 8.02
082. Buffy the Vampire Slayer #6 - 6.96
083. Punisher War Journal #11 - 5.22
084. World War Hulk #4 - 6.96
085. All-Star Batman & Robin #7 - 6.43
086. Vinyl Underground #1 - 5.73
087. Green Arrow & Black Canary #1 - 8.27
088. The Sword #1 - 6.89
089. She-Hulk #22 - 7.38
090. Tales of the Fear Agent: Twelve Steps in One - 6.18
091. Annihilation: Conquest #1 - 6.93
092. Batman and the Outsiders #1 - 6.87
093. Flash #234 - 5.72
094. Gotham Underground #2 - 5.52
095. Ultimates 3 #1 - 4.8
096. Amazing Spider-Girl #15 - 6
097. Birds of Prey #113 - 7.16
098. Pax Romana #1 - 8.59
099. Hack/Slash #7 - 6.97
100. HULK #1 - 7.19
101. Booster Gold #6 - 7.68
102. Order #7 - 6.97
103. Narcopolis #1 - 5.37
104. Reviewer's Choice -
105. Tiny Titans #1 - 6.81
106. Loaded Bible 3: Communion - 8.68
107. Project Superpowers #1 - 5.93
108. Echo #1 - 8.34
109. Mighty Avengers #10 - 7.12
110. Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #27 - 7.73
111. Proof #6 - 8.48
112. Secret Invasion #1 - 7.95
113. Titans #1 - 6
114. Noble Causes #32 - 7.26
115. Hulk vs. Hercules: When Titans Collide - 7.39
116. DC Universe 0 - 4.94
117. House of Mystery #1 - 7.77
118. Captain Britain and MI:13 #1 - 7.36
119. Checkmate #26 - 4.09
120. Final Crisis #1 - 6.91
121. The Boys #19 - 8.3
122. Skaar: Son of Hulk #1 - 5.53
123. Transformers Spotlight: Cyclonus - 5.92
124. Trinity #4 - 5.15
125. Jonah Hex #33 - 8.7
126. I Kill Giants #1 - 7.55
127. Batgirl #1 - 5.23
128. Uncanny X-Men #500 - 6.22
129. Wildcats #1 - 7.33
130. Venom: Dark Origin #1 - 7.16
131. Astonishing X-Men #26 - 5.12
132. Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #1 - 7.67
133. Runaways #1 - 7.34
134. Marvel Apes #1 - 6.15
135. Star Wars: The Clone Wars #1 - 6.22
136. Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #33 - 7.25
137. Back to Brooklyn #1 - 5.58
138. Four Eyes #1 - 9.26
139. Green Lantern Corps #29 - 6.16
140. Ghost Rider #28 - 7.44
141. Unknown Soldier #1 - 8.66
142. Amazing Spider-Man #575 - 6.98
143. Final Crisis: Resist - 6.44
144. Batman: Cacophony #1 - 7.37
145. Deadpool #4 - 6.57
146. Ms. Marvel #33 - 5.97
147. Secret Invasion #8 - 7.15
148. Punisher: War Zone #1 - 7.17
149. Ex Machina #40 - 8.11
150. Immortal Iron Fist #21 - 8.21
151. Incognito #1 - 8.65
152. Punisher #1 - 6.25
153. G.I. Joe #1 - 6.68
154. Hellblazer #251 - 6.94
155. Justice Society of America #23 - 6.53
156. Watchmen - 9.88
157. Batman #686 - 8.84
158. Amber Atoms #1 - 4.25
159. Runaways #7 - 5.25
160. Superman: World of New Krypton #1 - 6.68
161. Guardians of the Galaxy #11 - 6.41
162. Invincible #60 - 7.08
163. Muppet Show #1 - 6.66
164. Flash: Rebirth #1 - 6.93
165. Wolverine: Weapon X #1 - 6.52
166. The Strange Adventures of H.P. Lovecraft #1 - 7.82
167. Ghost Rider #34 - 8.82
168. Phonogram: The Singles Club #2 - 6.33
169. Final Crisis Aftermath: Run! #1 - 7
170. Unwritten #1 - 8.53
171. The Boys: Herogasm #1 - 7.09
172. Last Days of Animal Man #1 - 6.23
173. Batman and Robin #1 - 8.01
174. Amazing Spider-Man #597 - 7.19
175. Transformers Spotlight: Cliffjumper - 7
176. Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Utopia - 6.62
177. Justice League: Cry for Justice #1 - 6.71
178. Wednesday Comics #1 - 7.84
179. Blackest Night #1 - 8.87
180. Immortal Weapons #1 - 7.17
181. Mice Templar: Destiny #1 - 7.81
182. Doom Patrol #1 - 5.12
183. Ultimate Comics Avengers #1 - 7.14
184. Daredevil #500 - 8.62
185. Fantastic Four #570 - 6.9
186. Sweet Tooth #1 - 8.1
187. Dark Reign: The List - Avengers - 5.95
188. Beasts of Burden #1 - 8.73
189. Wolverine: Giant Size Old Man Logan - 7.95
190. Teen Titans #75 - 4.67
191. Haunt #1 - 6.6
192. Unwritten #6 - 7.41
193. Azrael #1 - 4.11
194. Dark Avengers: Ares #1 - 6.79
195. Deadpool Team-Up #899 - 5.24
196. Locke & Key: Crown of Shadows #1 - 6.96
197. Punisher #11 - 7.39
198. Image United #1 - 3.53
199. Jonah Hex #50 - 9.23
200. Invincible Iron Man #21 - 7.45
201. Walt Disney Comics & Stories #701 - 5.85
202. Hellboy: The Bride of Hell - 7.32
203. Webcomics Week -
204. Siege #1 - 7.84
205. Amazing Spider-Man #617 - 8.39
206. Joe the Barbarian #1 - 7.97
207. Robocop #1 - 3.59
208. FREE4ALL -
209. Choker #1 - 6.17
209. Tails of the Pet Avengers - 7.04
210. Supergirl #50 - 5.34
211. X-Men Forever #18 - 5.35
212. First Wave #1 - 6.98
213. Daytripper #4 - 7.19
214. Irredeemable #12 - 6.28
215. Amazing Spider-Man #626 - 5.18
216. Blackest Night #8 - 6.41
217. S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 - 9.23
218. Kill Shakespeare #1 - 5.36
219. X-Men Forever Annual #1 - 6.41
220. Siege: Secret Warriors - 6.53
221. I, Zombie #1 - 8.22
222. Heroic Age: Prince of Power #1 - 7.25
223. Avengers #1 - 7.51
224. Gotham City Sirens #12 - 4.39
225. Red Hood: The Lost Days #1 - 6.71
226. S.H.I.E.L.D. #2 - 7.57
227. New Avengers #1 - 6.15
228. Bullet to the Head #1 - 4.5
229. Deadpool: Wade Wilson's War #2 - 4.2
230. Batman & Robin #13 - 6.24
231. Gorilla-Man #1 - 4.81
232. Time Masters: Vanishing Point #1 - 4.79
233. Justice League: Generation Lost #6 - 7.39
234. Baltimore: The Plague Ships #1 - 6.46
235. Thor: The Mighty Avenger #3 - 6.21
236. Tiny Titans #31 - 5.17
236. New Avengers #3 - 4.88
237. Garrison #5 - 4.71
238. 1 Month 2 Live #1 - 6.02
239. Billy the Kid’s Old Timey Oddities and the Ghastly Fiend of London #1 - 7.82
240. Steve Rogers: Super Soldier #3 - 7.73
241. Nemesis #3 - 5.17
242. Franken-Castle #21 - 6.14
243. Ultimate Comics Thor #1 - 5.88
244. Victorian Undead Special - 6.25
245. Kick Ass 2 #1 - 6.58
246. Incognito: Bad Influences #1 - 8.05
247. Superboy #1 - 6.81
248. American Vampire #8 - 8.17
249. Hellboy: Double Feature of Evil - 8.5
250. Batwoman #0 - 8.04
251. Daredevil #512 - 5.87
252. Booster Gold #32 - 7
253. Suicide Forest #1 - 8.16
254. Larfleeze Christmas Special - 4.89
255. Action Comics #896 - 6.92
256. Weird Worlds #1 - 2.02
257. Casanova: Gula #1 - 8.53
258. The Spirit #10 - 6.72
259. Fantastic Four #587 - 5.1
260. Week 260 -
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262. Hellblazer #276 - 5.28
263. Avengers #10 - 4.16
264. Secret Warriors #25 - 6.61
265. Ultimate Spider-Man #155 - 6.68
266. Morning Glories #8 - 7.5
267. Lorna: Relic Wrangler #1 - 3.46
268. Butcher Baker: The Righteous Maker #1 - 7.09
269. Brightest Day #23 - 4.38
270. Uncanny X-Men #535 - 7.5
271. Thunderbolts #156 - 5.92
272. Walking Dead #84 - 7.3
273. Avengers Academy #13 - 6.42
274. Fear Itself: Youth in Revolt #1 - 5.4
275. Hawkeye: Blindspot #4 - 5.5
276. Iron Man 2.0 #5 - 5.57
276. Secret Avengers #13 - 4.49
277. S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 - 5.67
278. Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #1 - 5.48
279. Northlanders #41 - 6.83
280. All Nighter #1 - 6.36
281. THUNDER Agents #8 - 7.95
282. Jonah Hex #69 - 8.84
283. Red Wing #1 - 6.1
284. Daredevil #1 - 7.92
285. Amazing Spider-Man #666 - 6.15
286. Severed #1 - 8.26
287. Detective Comics #881 - 8.81
288. Damaged #1 - 7.31
289. Ultimate Comics Ultimates #1 - 5.41
290. Uncanny X-Force #14 - 8.11
291. Static Shock #1 - 6
292. Criminal: The Last of the Innocent #4 - 6.5
293. Batman #1 - 6.98
294. Aquaman #1 - 5.87
295. Animal Man #2 - 8.04
296. Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #3 - 5.1
297. HP Lovecraft's The Dunwich Horror #1 - 3.67
298. Wolverine and the X-Men #1 - 8.09
299. Six Guns #1 - 7.6
300. Unwritten #31 - 7.8
301. Avengers #19 - 5.5
302. Infinite #4 - 3.5
303. Flash Gordon: Zeitgeist #1 - 5.58
304. Defenders #1 - 8.55
305. Black Panther: The Most Dangerous Man Alive #526 - 4.19
306. Amazing Spider-Man #676 - 4.19
307. American Vampire #22 - 9
308. Fatale #1 - 7.8
309. Severed #6 - 8.5
310. Hellblazer #287 - 9
311. Secret Avengers #21.1 - 6.06
312. Winter Soldier #1 - 8.88
313. Batwoman #6 - 3.88
314. Daredevil #9 - 7.33
315. The Sixth Gun #19 - 8
316. Moon Knight #10 - 6.75
317. Hulk #49 - 7.5
318. The Shade #6 - 7.13
319. Amazing Spider-Man #682 - 7.13
320. Avengers vs. X-Men #0 - 5
321. Swamp Thing #8 - 7.88
322. America's Got Powers #1 - 5.5
323. Reset #1 - 8
324. The Goon #39 - 7
325. Dial H #1 - 4.45
326. Dan the Unharmable #1 - 7.5
327. Dancer #1 - 6.58
328. Batman Incorportated #1 - 7.14
328. Youngblood #71 - 4.17
329. Star Trek The Next Generation/Doctor Who: Assimilation #1 - 6.21
330. Insufferable Weeks 1-6 - 7.71
331. The Massive #1 - 6.92
332. Baltimore: Dr. Leskovar's Remedy #1 - 8.6
333. Hit Girl #1 - 6 (Only one review was in.....seriously)
334. Infernal Man-Thing #1 - 7.25
335. Punk Rock Jesus #1 - 6.38
336. Captain Marvel #1 - 4 (Only one review in)
336. Avengers vs. X-Men #8 - 7 (Only one review in)
337. Debris #1 - 5.5
338. X-Men #33 - 4.4
339. Gambit #1 - 7 (Only one review in)
340. Before Watchmen: Rorschach #1 - 7.5
341. Rocketeer: Cargo of Doom #1 - 7.5
342. Uncanny X-Force #30 - 8.8
343. Action Comics #0 - 3.8
344. Batman #0 - 7.3
345. The Unwritten #41 - 8
346. Happy #1 - 7
346. Talon #0 - 7.5
347. Daredevil: End of Days #1 - 9
348. Uncanny Avengers #1 - 7.3
349. The Zaucer of Zilk #1 - 7.9
350. National Comics: Madame X #1 - 6
351. Bedlam #1 - 7.8
352. Storm Dogs #1 - 6
353. Great Pacific #1 - 6.2
354. Uncanny X-Force #34 - 7.9
355.FF #1 - 6.5
356. Avengers #1 - 4.5
357. Avengers Arena #1 - 5.34
358. Wonder Woman #15 - 8.5
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GLX » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:01 pm

Even though Luther Strode is a boss comic and you fools should be checking it out, I doubt that most here are reading it. Instead, I'll be attempting to charge the group up again with...

Avengers Arena #3

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• X-23 vs. ANNIHILATION's Cammi!

• A mystery opponent vs. AVENGERS ACADEMY's Sentinel!

• Who is the killer stalking the competitors in their sleep?

• Plus: Darkhawk equals death!
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby Amoebas » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:11 pm

First off, this was really a Black Panther solo issue (hardly what I would start a new team book with). If you're not a big T'Challa fan (and I havet been on the edge for a while) there's little to keep you interested.

So the book opens in Wakanda, where there's zero evidence that it was destroyed by Namor just a few months ago. One good tidbit to take from this is that Hickman might be trying to get everyone to forget AvX. If not it's a glaring omission.

Anyway, a sluttly girl who I thought was Darkstar magically appears with a ton of armed goons behind her. So what does one of the kid's T'Challa with do? He cheerfully welcomes them to Wakanda. Predicting the only outcome of this greeting takes no effort (they must grow the kids extremely dumb in Wakanda nowadays (which is odd because all the word heavy first few pages were about how smart they are)).

Anyway, stupid kids get killed, baddies set some 'wheel' in motion and Panther knocks out bare-midriff-girl. All better right? Wrong.

Things get so unexplainedly bad that Stark, Richards, Strange, Rogers, Namor & Blackbolt all show up. Would have been nice for there to at least have been a hint as to "why" things got so bad.

And this is one of Hickman's foils. He setting up a mystery that will probably need 43 issues to explain. He tries to grab the reader into an undefined mystery when he should be trying to grab the reader into the book instead. It appears to me he thinks 'his' story is more important than the characters. It isn't and imo, it never will be.

Epting has always been a solid artist and he is his usual good self here (and draws a REAL Captain America (not that movie/ultraexageratted chainmail thing that appears more and more often).

And Namor is in Wakanda? And the Wakandan soldiers aren't even trying to point their guns at him? What the Wakandan fuck?

I've said it ages ago and I'm still saying, Hickman isn't as good as he (or Hab) thinks he is.

As first issues goes - this wasn't good.

Story - 0
Art - 7
Overall - 3.5

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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GHERU » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:18 am

ugh

the more I read of him the more I know I do not get the Hickman hype
boring "everything we ever knew changes" issue
not pre-ordering anymore from DCBS

art was pretty
story - 3
art - 7
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby Punchy » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:35 am

This was probably the worst Marvel Now book I have read so far, just the very worst Hickman cliches all in one package.

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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GLX » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:05 pm

GHERU wrote:ugh

the more I read of him the more I know I do not get the Hickman hype
boring "everything we ever knew changes" issue
not pre-ordering anymore from DCBS

art was pretty
story - 3
art - 7
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GLX » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:07 pm

Any other reviews before the new thread goes up, tomorrow?
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GHERU » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:19 am

(after some edits, this is going on the front page any notes will be welcomed)

New Avengers #1
Writer: Jonathan Hickman
Penciler: Stephen H. Epting
Publisher: Marvel Comics

So, here we are, a new era for Marvel – the NOW! Era – and with that comes a new volume of everything, including Avengers and New Avengers, both written by Jonathan Hickman. Yippee! I tried, I really did, and I read both of these comics with an open mind. I figured that if I could learn to like The Avengers I could learn to like Hickman.

I was wrong.

Focusing on New Avengers nothing sums up my feelings on the issue like fellow Outhouse writer, Punchy:

“This was probably the worst Marvel Now book I have read so far, just the very worst Hickman clichés all in one package.”

There you go, if you want a comic that is not new reader friendly, doesn’t explain anything, presents the first part of an undefined mystery, and provides absolutely nothing that would inspire a reader to care about what happens next, New Avengers #1 is for you.

Here’s your synopsis – Something weird happens in Wakkanda (don’t worry, it’s not explained) and the answers to what happened (no idea what that was, I think some teenagers died) and the books ends on a dramatic cliffhanger with more questions than answers. No, this isn’t a review of S.H.I.EL.D. #1 (2, 3, 4, 5, or 6) or any of the other comics Hickman has written that follows this same formula. Best part is it will only take 20 or so issues for the mystery to be clearly defined – nor for it to be solved – but for us to know what is going on.

I don’t know when it happened, and there are arguments as to who exactly is to blame for this, but it seems that there is a new group of mainstream writers that are more interested in writing THE Avengers / THE X-Men / THE InsertBookNameHere story / THE run that will be put on the same list as Claremont’s X-Men, Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing, Joe Kelly’s Deadpool , or even Wolfman and Perez on Teen Titans rather than put in the work to write a coherent comic book that will stand the test of time, not flame out after a year or so. And, from what I can tell, Hickman is leading that charge.

By halfway through the issue I was dreading turning the page to see what would (not) happen next.

Stephen H. Epting’s pencils are spot on. The art in this issue created a nice flow that did its best to communicate what was happening in a clear and easy to follow manner, too bad about the story.

One silver lining, I had already broken my rule on no new monthlies with Avengers Arena, at least now I can save money and drop two books: New Avengers and Avengers.

Story – 2
Art – 7.5
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GHERU » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:22 am

GLX wrote:
If you can expand your review to 5 sentences or more, it'll count.

fair enough
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GLX » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:28 pm

GHERU wrote:(after some edits, this is going on the front page any notes will be welcomed)

New Avengers #1
Writer: Jonathan Hickman
Penciler: Stephen H. Epting
Publisher: Marvel Comics

So, here we are, a new era for Marvel – the NOW! Era – and with that comes a new volume of everything, including Avengers and New Avengers, both written by Jonathan Hickman. Yippee! I tried, I really did, and I read both of these comics with an open mind. I figured that if I could learn to like The Avengers I could learn to like Hickman.

I was wrong.

Focusing on New Avengers nothing sums up my feelings on the issue like fellow Outhouse writer, Punchy:

“This was probably the worst Marvel Now book I have read so far, just the very worst Hickman clichés all in one package.”

There you go, if you want a comic that is not new reader friendly, doesn’t explain anything, presents the first part of an undefined mystery, and provides absolutely nothing that would inspire a reader to care about what happens next, New Avengers #1 is for you.

Here’s your synopsis – Something weird happens in Wakkanda (don’t worry, it’s not explained) and the answers to what happened (no idea what that was, I think some teenagers died) and the books ends on a dramatic cliffhanger with more questions than answers. No, this isn’t a review of S.H.I.EL.D. #1 (2, 3, 4, 5, or 6) or any of the other comics Hickman has written that follows this same formula. Best part is it will only take 20 or so issues for the mystery to be clearly defined – nor for it to be solved – but for us to know what is going on.

I don’t know when it happened, and there are arguments as to who exactly is to blame for this, but it seems that there is a new group of mainstream writers that are more interested in writing THE Avengers / THE X-Men / THE InsertBookNameHere story / THE run that will be put on the same list as Claremont’s X-Men, Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing, Joe Kelly’s Deadpool , or even Wolfman and Perez on Teen Titans rather than put in the work to write a coherent comic book that will stand the test of time, not flame out after a year or so. And, from what I can tell, Hickman is leading that charge.

By halfway through the issue I was dreading turning the page to see what would (not) happen next.

Stephen H. Epting’s pencils are spot on. The art in this issue created a nice flow that did its best to communicate what was happening in a clear and easy to follow manner, too bad about the story.

One silver lining, I had already broken my rule on no new monthlies with Avengers Arena, at least now I can save money and drop two books: New Avengers and Avengers.

Story – 2
Art – 7.5


What led to the change in scores?

FYI - your new average is 4.3 (rounded from 4.25)
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby Amoebas » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:31 pm

GLX wrote:
What led to the change in scores?


I know that every time I think about the book the writing drops another point. :-D

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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:32 pm

I'm a big Black Panther fan, so this issue focusing solely on him didn't bother me. That said, there really wasn't much of a story to this issue. Yeah, the villains could be interesting. Yeah, the plot introduced could be interesting. It could all be really great, but there isn't enough to judge anything here. I've always found that to be unacceptable in a first issue.

4 out of 10, saved from getting lower by my sheer enjoyment of most anything featuring T'Challa.
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Re: Review Group #360 New Avengers #1

Postby GiveWarAChance » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:18 pm

I didn't hate this issue nearly as much as everyone else in here did. Saying that, I think it probably would have been better as an #0 issue setting up the series, considering the New Avengers don't actually show up until the final 3 pages. As others have already stated, this is basically a Black Panther solo issue that sets up a new super villain(a black swan who speaks multiple languages and knows of multiple Earths) who is paving the way for another super villain(he is referred to as the great destroyer with an endless appetite) that we don't yet know. I think the issue did a decent job of showing us how Black Panther could be considered an equal to the rest of the Illuminati. I just wanted to see more of the team. Steve Epting's art is simply gorgeous. Say what you will about the story but the art is really the highlight of this issue.

Story - 5
Art - 8
Overall - 6.5
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