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GLX

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Postby GLX » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:14 pm

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Hawkman: Found #1

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One of DC’S greatest heroes is missing! No one has seen or heard from Carter Hall—a.k.a. Hawkman—in years. Reincarnated repeatedly since the dawn of humanity, Hawkman has spent his many lives uncovering history’s most fantastic mysteries, and now he has become one himself! Take a journey into the one of the darkest corners of the DC Universe as a mysterious man tries to piece together what happened to Hawkman, and how it all connects to the events of DARK NIGHTS: METAL!


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Postby GLX » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:16 pm

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Postby HNutz » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:53 pm

That was a fucking waste of time.

Half of it is a flashback, it ends on a cliffhanger and says "To be continued in Metal #5." It felt like half an issue. Fuck that shit.

I saw Lemire's name on it and bought it anyway. Even though I didn't like his Hawkeye or his Moon Knight. Guess I should have known better.

Hitch's art was nice, though.

Let's give it a 3 for the art. Would have been higher if there was some sort of resolution or something.
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Postby GLX » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:01 pm

Next week's pick is....?

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/week ... 2018&pl=19
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Stephen Day

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Postby Stephen Day » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:31 pm

There's too little explanation for a reader like me who is coming in cold to this one shot. Who exactly is the foe that Hawkman is facing? Why are the Manhawks doing what they're doing?

I was more frustrated than anything else while reading this issue. The art is pretty and I will give it that. Like a lot of things the comic book industry puts out these days, it's relying too much on the thought that the reader has read other things before reading this issue though. I miss the days when the thought that any issue could be a readers first was paramount.

2 out of 10
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Postby Stephen Day » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:39 pm



Exit Stage Left: The Snagglepuss Chronicles #1
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HNutz

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Postby HNutz » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:53 pm

I was too fucking generous earlier.

I'm giving that shit a 3.
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Postby Amoebas » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:55 pm

As a Hawkman fan, who read his last (Death of) series and how much Nth metal played a part in it, I followed this well enough.

Carter Hall (so much preferred over Katar Hol) who should be dead but isn't tries to make sense of his situation and who he is. He doesn't quite figure it out but from my point of view he's trapped with all of his past lives somewhere. Katar's old pests, the Manhawks attack and Carter takes the fight straight to them. He manages to get to a Thanagarian ship where he savagedly gets back the wings (he didn't know he was missing). Lastly, some sort of Nth Hawk God appears and it's... over. Continued in the main mini series.

Story wise, it's great news that Carter is still alive but I agree it was light on story and even lighter on explanation. I wish Adam Strange (from Death of) had made an appearance especially knowing Lemire's affinity for the character.

Art wise, I'm not a Hitch fan but I am a huge lover Nowlan's pencils or inks - it's ambrosia to these eyes.

Story - 4
Art - 7
X-factor - 6

Overall - 5.666 (round it to a 6)
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Postby GLX » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:23 pm

Amoebas wrote:As a Hawkman fan, who read his last (Death of) series and how much Nth metal played a part in it, I followed this well enough.

Carter Hall (so much preferred over Katar Hol) who should be dead but isn't tries to make sense of his situation and who he is. He doesn't quite figure it out but from my point of view he's trapped with all of his past lives somewhere. Katar's old pests, the Manhawks attack and Carter takes the fight straight to them. He manages to get to a Thanagarian ship where he savagedly gets back the wings (he didn't know he was missing). Lastly, some sort of Nth Hawk God appears and it's... over. Continued in the main mini series.

Story wise, it's great news that Carter is still alive but I agree it was light on story and even lighter on explanation. I wish Adam Strange (from Death of) had made an appearance especially knowing Lemire's affinity for the character.

Art wise, I'm not a Hitch fan but I am a huge lover Nowlan's pencils or inks - it's ambrosia to these eyes.

Story - 4
Art - 7
X-factor - 6

Overall - 5.666 (round it to a 6)


6 for the tally or 5.7?
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Postby Amoebas » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:05 pm

GLX wrote:
6 for the tally or 5.7?

Push it to a 6.
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Postby IvCNuB4 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:38 pm

HNutz wrote:That was a fucking waste of time.
Half of it is a flashback, it ends on a cliffhanger and says "To be continued in Metal #5." It felt like half an issue. Fuck that shit.

I saw Lemire's name on it and bought it anyway. Even though I didn't like his Hawkeye or his Moon Knight. Guess I should have known better.

Hitch's art was nice, though.

Let's give it a 3 for the art. Would have been higher if there was some sort of resolution or something.



The mini-series and main title is still going on. There isn't a resolution yet.



Stephen Day wrote:There's too little explanation for a reader like me who is coming in cold to this one shot. Who exactly is the foe that Hawkman is facing? Why are the Manhawks doing what they're doing?


The foe is the Dark Multiverse Hawkman. You would have picked on this from what is happening in the main series. It is clearly stated that the Manhawks are attacking because they are "at war".

I was more frustrated than anything else while reading this issue. The art is pretty and I will give it that. Like a lot of things the comic book industry puts out these days, it's relying too much on the thought that the reader has read other things before reading this issue though. I miss the days when the thought that any issue could be a readers first was paramount.

2 out of 10


This one-shot is a tie-in to the main title of an ongoing mini-series. Why wouldn't you expect that you would have to know something about the event? Regardless, Hawkman's original mission and how he was ambushed was explained.
Yes, there are some unanswered questions at this point but this event is still ongoing. This title did as expected: it explains what happened to Hawkman when Dark Nights began. Hitch's art is onpoint and does a fine job embellishing Lemire's story.

7 out of 10
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Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:33 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:This one-shot is a tie-in to the main title of an ongoing mini-series. Why wouldn't you expect that you would have to know something about the event? Regardless, Hawkman's original mission and how he was ambushed was explained.
Yes, there are some unanswered questions at this point but this event is still ongoing. This title did as expected: it explains what happened to Hawkman when Dark Nights began. Hitch's art is onpoint and does a fine job embellishing Lemire's story.

7 out of 10


I've read one shots that were tied to an event that were written in a way where you didn't have to read the main portions of the event to understand what was happening. What's wrong with a writer doing that? What's wrong with liking a character and having a hope that that would be the case with this one shot?
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Postby IvCNuB4 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:17 am

I didn't say that there was anything "wrong" with any of that. I have also read one-shots that seemed to be stand=alones but as you have said those are few and far between. Knowing that, a reader should expect to not understanding some things and that they may have to spend 20 seconds Googling "Dark Nights #4" to get a handle on who attacked Carter and transformed him into the being he is now. Here's a hint: the entire "Dark Nights" event is about Barbatos attacking the DCU. :D
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Postby Stephen Day » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:15 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:I didn't say that there was anything "wrong" with any of that. I have also read one-shots that seemed to be stand=alones but as you have said those are few and far between. Knowing that, a reader should expect to not understanding some things and that they may have to spend 20 seconds Googling "Dark Nights #4" to get a handle on who attacked Carter and transformed him into the being he is now. Here's a hint: the entire "Dark Nights" event is about Barbatos attacking the DCU. :D


Maybe so, but I'm not going to drop the view that when a reader buys an issue he or she deserves an issue in which the story can be understood within that issue. As I said in my review this issue was relying on the thought that the reader had read other things. I'll continue to maintain that writing any comic book on that basis is a horrible, awful and horrendously bad idea and my review will reflect that view. If I have to google something to understand what I've read then in my opinion that's a sign of bad writing.

The industry as a whole needs to end that habit. It leads to having a more insular readership. that's a direction the industry as a whole has desperately needed to move away from for years now.
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Postby Amoebas » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:51 pm

Stephen Day wrote:
Maybe so, but I'm not going to drop the view that when a reader buys an issue he or she deserves an issue in which the story can be understood within that issue. As I said in my review this issue was relying on the thought that the reader had read other things. I'll continue to maintain that writing any comic book on that basis is a horrible, awful and horrendously bad idea and my review will reflect that view. If I have to google something to understand what I've read then in my opinion that's a sign of bad writing.

The industry as a whole needs to end that habit. It leads to having a more insular readership. that's a direction the industry as a whole has desperately needed to move away from for years now.


There have been many first issues where the story/direction is incomplete (with decompression it might take 2-4 issues to figure that out), so I agree, the industry needs to end that habit.

Especially when it's a one-off special.

Jim Shooter paraphrase that I believe in - "every issue is somebody's first issue".

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