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[Old Man]

My revenue stream hasn't been doing so hot. Hence, lateness.

My urine stream hasn't been doing so hot, so I saw a doctor.

[Old Man]

Dark Reign The List Avengers #1

I feel remorse having bought this book.

2.5

Having finally written my review, I can now read the other reviews to see how it stacks up in comparison. Wow. You disliked it worse than I did.

I feel no remorse because I didn't buy it. As was pointed out last week, the correct wording is I Byrne-stole it.

[Starlord]

got your email Old Man. No problems! I actually ended up enjoying more of it than I thought, anyway.

Great review, though! Enjoyed every word of it

Good luck with that stream thing...

I'd suggest you might want to try a higher priced playmate, but I'd hate to have you slap me upside my head next time I see you.

[Old Man]

Here's a picture of Evan and Jill from a recent con, and if you look closely you might see some puppies:

Naw, couldn't see them puppies. She's holding the artwork in the way.

[Old Man]

Dark Reign: The List - Avengers

Weak: Bendis dialogue. Other than Spider-Man they all sound the same.

Weak: Did I mention the dialogue. Don't believe me, read the opening scene: Classic Bendis. Let's spend four pages discussing what should be done and has been done.

Story: 7
Art: 8
My Score: 7.60

Those 2 points are the main reason I don't read Bendis. They all sound the same, and the endless yammering drives me nuts. If I wanted to hear endless yammering, I'd get married again.

[guitarsmashley]

Naw, couldn't see them puppies. She's holding the artwork in the way.

You should change your name to dirty old man. I hope to be one some day.

[Old Man]

The problem is.. if you introduced your characters every month in every issue, it'd get old REALLY fast.

I don't think it's a problem for new readers, to be honest. Amazingly enough, I was able to get into comics without each and every character and their detailed backstory being given to me everytime they're shown on a page.

I don't think you give people enough credit.

I don't know where you are from, Chris, so I hope you don't get offended by this if you are from America, but people are stupid...especially Americans. England, Ireland, and Scotland have about 60 million people combined, yet have more good writers and artists than all of America with 300 million people.

Nearly 10% or Americans don't think Hawaii is a state, something that has been true for almost 50 years. Nearly 70% of Americans are 50 or younger, so this has been true for all of their lives.

Too many Americans can't figure their gas mileage, or determine if a 6-pack of toilet paper for $3 is a better or worse deal than a 12-pack for $5.

And, judging from the people who have waited on me in the last several years, most Americans simply CAN'T figure out how much change you get back without the cash register to tell them. I stopped the other day for a burger and fries, The order came to $6.08. I gave the cashier $21.08, and he couldn't understand why I had given him the single dollar bill.

People are incredibly stupid, but especially Americans.

And I think the direct problem here is that you assume because you are bright enough to catch on about what is happening in a story, you are assuming that most people can. Most people can't, which is one of the reasons that the comics industry remains so small.

[Jubilee]

Then fuck em? Why would you mark down a comic because people who don't know all that bullshit wouldn't understand it. You've come into this book looking for a reason to mark it down. I can't even be bothered to rise to Guitarsmashleys bait.

[Victorian Squid]

Having finally written my review, I can now read the other reviews to see how it stacks up in comparison. Wow. You disliked it worse than I did.

I feel no remorse because I didn't buy it. As was pointed out last week, the correct wording is I Byrne-stole it.

I actually raised it a point.

After re-reading it, I realized I didn't like the plot, dialogue, and coloring, but the art wasn't so bad if you could get past the drab colors--except for the painted "chiaroscuro" technique with the faces. I think it made everyone look grugly.

But it might've gotten a higher score if it hadn't been an over-priced padded 26 page one shot that is actually just, and by just I mean merely, a lead-in to the Avengers annual, apparently.

[Punchy]

Really? I'd say Peter and MJ are head and shoulders above Clint and Bobbi.

If Peter and MJ were better, they would have gotten married.

But they never did, so...

[Victorian Squid]

Serious question here--who exactly is the leader of this group of Avengers?! In the old days it'd be "Well, I'm in charge so we either go along with my plan or you can do one of those dramatic quitting speeches!" Please don't tell me it's Bucky, as he seemed 100% out of it in this issue. When fans look back someday, they will talk about their favorite Avengers conversations, or preview pages? I don't think so.

And another thing--hasn't Bendis lost sight of his own book here? I thought when the New Avengers were formed at the prison, the whole freaking point was they would have team members to do the unpleasant things. Killing Wanda at the House of M was mentioned, I believe. That was why Wolverine was on the team for Chrissake. So why the Sunday School-level morals speech?

[Chris]

If Peter and MJ were better, they would have gotten married.

But they never did, so...

Sure they did.

[GHERU]

Oh and Bendis even makes use of Karla and Clint's past in a very fun call back to Kurt Busiek's run on thunderbolts. Really was a highlight for me.

wasn't that Fabian?

[Victorian Squid]

Sure they did.

That's how I remember it.

[Punchy]

Serious question here--who exactly is the leader of this group of Avengers?! In the old days it'd be "Well, I'm in charge so we either go along with my plan or you can do one of those dramatic quitting speeches!" Please don't tell me it's Bucky, as he seemed 100% out of it in this issue. When fans look back someday, they will talk about their favorite Avengers conversations? I don't think so.

And another thing--hasn't Bendis lost sight of his own book here? I thought when the New Avengers were formed at the prison, the whole freaking point was they would have team members to do the unpleasant things. Killing Wanda at the House of M was mentioned, I believe. That was why Wolverine was on the team for Chrissake. So why the Sunday School-level morals speech?

Clint Barton is the leader, has been since Secret Invasion, but it's quite informal, Luke Cage could also be considered leader.

And having Wolverine there to do some more deadly stuff was hardly the 'whole freaking point' of the New team, it was just an aspect of it, and an explanation as to why Logan was on the team. And even then, there were discussions about whether it was right, Captain America (Steve Rogers version) was against it, but Iron Man was for, they discussed it. Spider-Man wasn't involved in the discussion, and he's the main one arguing against killing. He has discussed his opinion on killing with Wolverine a lot previously though.

Also, the original New Avengers team is a different proposition from the current, Post Civil War on the run team, they aren't officially sanctioned, they are on their own, they seem to be much more egalitarian, there's no official Chairman empowered by a Charter or Government, they work together and discuss things