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Review Group Week 195 - DEADPOOL TEAM-UP #899

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thefourthman

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Postby thefourthman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:18 pm

all of those make sense except for Deadpool. Where the fuck is Wolverine? :shock:

******

Postby ****** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:19 pm

thefourthman wrote:all of those make sense except for Deadpool. Where the fuck is Wolverine? :shock:


Had I bothered to count the team and event books, he probably would be on top.
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thefourthman

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Postby thefourthman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:19 pm

amlah6 wrote:I talked about the new Flaming Lips record in the OP about a month before you started your thread about it too. :P

yeah, well I remember that, but I am poor and that is how long it took me to buy it and it was amazing so I started a thread and posted the naked people video as well. I rule, you suck. What's new? :twisted:
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MrBlack

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Postby MrBlack » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:21 pm

thefourthman wrote:all of those make sense except for Deadpool. Where the fuck is Wolverine? :shock:

Punisher makes about as much sense as Deadpool. We've reviewed more Punisher books than Flash or Green Lantern books.
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thefourthman

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Postby thefourthman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:22 pm

MrBlack wrote:Punisher makes about as much sense as Deadpool. We've reviewed more Punisher books than Flash or Green Lantern books.

Flash sucks and GL is cosmic, so I will remain mute on that.

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Postby ****** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:27 pm

MrBlack wrote:Punisher makes about as much sense as Deadpool. We've reviewed more Punisher books than Flash or Green Lantern books.


Punisher is probably a result of all the reboots. Three of those five have been #1's.

PDH

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Postby PDH » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:50 pm

Deadpool Team-Up #899 - 898 To Go!

What the fuck? This is an ongoing? I thought it was a joke at the expense of Marvel's dubious grasp of mathematics. A joke able to sustain, at best, a one-shot for people easily bedazzled by funny numbers. What other appeal could it possibly have that couldn't just as easily be satisfied with one of Deadpool's other titles? Well, join me as I venture into the sleazy, strange-smelling, verruca peppered waters of Deadpool Team-Up #899 to find the answer...

None whatsoever.

This is exactly as pointless as it looks. Not just pointless in the sense that every comic book is essentially pointless. Pointless in that it makes a comic book about a super team composed of Twilight author Stephanie Meyer, Barack Obama's wife and, I don't know, Hilary Clinton's dog look like a clear and concise instruction manual for making a raft out of fat people on a predictably calamitous Weight Watcher's cruise through the Bermuda Triangle. This is more pointless than a bald hedgehog that has been sanded down into a perfect sphere and encased in polystyrene. This is...I'm gonna have to start describing the comic soon, aren't I?

Ugh. Anyway, there's not much to say. Deadpool Team Up #899 (i.e. Deadpool Team Up #2) works reasonably well as a Hercules story but I just can't get passed the Deadpool thing. I loved Joe Kelly's Deadpool run. It's a classic that clearly established Deadpool as a uniquely interesting creation. He used to be a genuinely edgy character who did things like incarcerate a blind octogenarian and force her to be his surrogate mother on pain of being locked up in a special torture chamber he had made, whilst gleefully parodying the likes of Spider-Man and Wolverine. It's hard to imagine that version of the character being able to satirise Wolverine with a straight face now. What would he say? 'Hey look, it's that irritating Canadian anti-hero with the easily identifiable mannerisms and Death Star subtle jokes who used to be relevant before they ran him into the ground with a million comic books!'

To be fair, Fred Van Lente does a reasonable job with it. He's a good writer and this doesn't read like he spent months performing sexual favours for Joe Quesada until he graciously agreed to let him write the obscure character, Deadpool. It reads like he got stuck with it and did the best he could. Apparently, Daniel Way's conceit of using various different styles of caption boxes to convey his idea that Deadpool suffers from some kind of mild dissociative identity disorder is now an official aspect of the character we can 'look forward' to seeing in other Deadpool books. Most of the – I shudder as I type the words – funny bits involve playing with this device. I usually reward writers who indicate that they are aware of the problems associated with their books but here that is the problem. The very last thing that Deadpool needs is to be self aware. Like when you accidentally become aware of your own breathing and have to manually inhale and exhale until you can somehow put it out of your mind, there's such a thing as being too self aware for you own good. Deadpool doesn't so much break the fourth wall as walk right off the stage, block the audience's view, steal their popcorn and then spend the whole night describing the show to someone loudly on a cellphone.

Don't buy any more Deadpool books, track down the excellent Joe Kelly stories and read them nine hundred times instead.

Story: 5
Art: 6
Overall: 5
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Kerny

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Postby Kerny » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:14 pm

Deadpool Team-Up

It was ok. Some of the jokes were kinda funny, and thats because FVL is a good writer. I don't get the herc love as everyone else seems too, but I digress. I hate the multiple voices, I was hoping Deadpool stabbing himself would have somehow got rid of them. The last few pages were the best with Deadpool knowing all his promotion is undeserved and puzzling.

This book might have a decent future if FVL was the writer every month, but since they switch it up every month, We'll see how long this lasts

The art is also completely average. I didn't hate it or love it

Story 6
Art 5

Total 5.5
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:15 pm

That sucked. What a waste of a comic book.

3
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Mr_Batman

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Postby Mr_Batman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 pm

I wasn't on yesterday, so my review...

Deadpool Team-Up #899

I don't really know if I like Deadpool too much because I don't have much experience with him. I know he's a funny guy, but that X-Men Origins Deadpool was absolutely freakin' terrible. Anyways, this issue was fun. I like the dual thoughts/narration. I felt like too many jokes were attempted, and they were generally hit or miss. I liked the Herc moment where he busted through the wall. The part where his kids came at him reminded me too much of the Fat Cobra. The story overall was simple and such, and could've been more enjoyable. I liked the last page though.

The art was really meh for me. I thought it was ok at first, and it really had its moments; otherwise it was meh. I didn't particularly like it in the end, but what can i do.

Story- 6
Art- 5
Overall- 5.5
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thefourthman

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Postby thefourthman » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:10 am

I am curious how the reviews for Locke and Key will be. This issue was fairly inaccessible.
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SuperginraiX

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Postby SuperginraiX » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:55 am

Deadpool was one of the first comics I read when I was getting hooked on comics way back in the early nineties. I picked up Spider-Man 2099 and Deadpool: The Circle Chase. I also gorged on X-Men comics but I still think those two titles were my first attempts to read comics after reading GIJoe and Transformers (and other random comics-- I remember reading the Spidey anti-drug story back then as well).

Since he's one of those "first characters," he holds a special place in my collection and I feel obligated to get nearly everything Deadpool related when it shows up. Back in the nineties, that was as easy as getting a random Wolverine issue or two.

Nowadays, it's frickin' insane.

There is absolutely no way Deadpool deserves three titles no matter how much people like Ryan Reynolds. I mean, he didn't even wear a DP-like costume! Why is there suddenly hype here? Is this a big joke on Marvel's part that will eventually cost them millions?

I mean, let's look at this logically. Deadpool couldn't even hold down his buddy book with Cable a couple years ago (and this was after his own title had been ended, renamed, and then ended again). Wade Wilson is one of my favorite characters but there is no way people like him enough to buy three titles. It just boggles my mind and I'm seeing an eventual crash for the character that will bury him forever with the likes of chromium covers and shoulderpads.

And for a lot of comic fans, they really can't wait. Me, I'd just settle for one good title. So is Deadpool Team Up that title?

Eh.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of Deadpool Team Up strikes me as awesome. If Deadpool was an easy character to write or a good writer with a singular vision for the character took over the entire line of Deadpool titles (the idea that we have a "line of Deadpool titles" is still hard to believe) then this idea could sing. As it stands, Deadpool is NOT an easy character to write. He just looks easy. He's surprisingly complex but the only title that seems to get that even slightly is Daniel Way's Deadpool book (and even there, DP seems more simplified and forced than he should). Van Lente does an admirable job but there's still a hollow ring to a lot of this.

The saving grace of the book is that it's really a Hercules book disguised as a Deadpool book. Van Lente DOES get Herc and the team up is fun to watch. This book actually shows some fallout from Hercules' Secret Invasion arc with the God Squad. Deadpool seems sort of tacked on just to make it work and to provide a bit more comedy relief (it did make me smile a few times. That's almost like success!).

The art wasn't anything you're gonna write home about. It's passable, looks good on some of the action shots, and is suitably gory. We just don't have that many over-the-top action artists willing to work on books that would really benefit from that sort of thing. Still, the trade off is that this book reads well and is easy to follow from panel to panel. Over-the-top action artists usually have the most trouble with that.

In short, I'm waiting for Deadpool to fall back into obscurity so that he can barely support one book that is actually good instead of riding the popularity gravy train and getting three books that just pass into mediocrity.

Deadpool Team-Up #899, you get a 6. I might be back next month but it's probably because of misplaced nostalgia.
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SuperginraiX

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Postby SuperginraiX » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:06 am

Now that I think about it, I bet I've talked about DP being one of my first comics every time a Deadpool issue comes up in the review group. I wonder if my story is about the same each time or if it's like a big game of telephone where it gets bigger and odder each time around.

When we review Deadpool/Spider-Man in a few weeks (I'm guessing), I'll have to up my story with some sharks with lasers on their heads or something.

******

Postby ****** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:59 am

thefourthman wrote:I am curious how the reviews for Locke and Key will be. This issue was fairly inaccessible.


It's awesomeness will prevail, no doubt.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:01 am

SuperginraiX wrote:Now that I think about it, I bet I've talked about DP being one of my first comics every time a Deadpool issue comes up in the review group. I wonder if my story is about the same each time or if it's like a big game of telephone where it gets bigger and odder each time around.

When we review Deadpool/Spider-Man in a few weeks (I'm guessing), I'll have to up my story with some sharks with lasers on their heads or something.


The Deadpool issue of ASM is this week, we're not reviewing it.

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