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Review Group Week 198 - IMAGE UNITED #1

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Postby doombug » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:02 pm

Shit I love all the creators but due to budget reasons i'm going to have to skip next week. :(
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Postby Punchy » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:10 am

Managed to get a copy of Image United, but 5 of my other books had sold out (Avengers: Initiative, Ares, GoTG, Iron Man and Secret Warriors), lame as.

I got the McFarlane cover. I'll try and get my review done tomorrow maybe, but I'm very busy with Uni work atm, so it might be Monday, or even Tuesday.

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Postby Starlord » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:08 pm

I still haven't got up enough nerve or stomach to read it yet, but I will.
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Postby guitarsmashley » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:46 pm

I was in Atomic comics today, They still had 100+ copies. I wonder how #2 will sell?
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Postby doombug » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:07 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:I was in Atomic comics today, They still had 100+ copies. I wonder how #2 will sell?


Judging by the reviews so far....we definitely wont be getting a sequel. Contrary to the "sell out" at diamond.

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Postby guitarsmashley » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:32 pm

doombug wrote:Judging by the reviews so far....we definitely wont be getting a sequel. Contrary to the "sell out" at diamond.


You have to figure that issue 2 and 3 will have good sales but starting with 4 I fully expect it to start crashing. The second that retailers put issue 2 on their shelves and they sell about a 32nd of issue 1 they'll start cutting their orders....this of course all hinges on issue 2 actually coming out on time.
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Postby doombug » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:41 am

guitarsmashley wrote:You have to figure that issue 2 and 3 will have good sales but starting with 4 I fully expect it to start crashing. The second that retailers put issue 2 on their shelves and they sell about a 32nd of issue 1 they'll start cutting their orders....this of course all hinges on issue 2 actually coming out on time.


Apparently 2 isn't even finished yet. they had a fucking year after the announcement. your telling me that these guys couldn't coordinate on a project they all have been hyping like crazy?

Except us to get to maybe issue 3 before the delays and fights break out. Between the creators involved.

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Postby thefourthman » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:57 am

actually Image has FOC, we should see adverse affects corrected at issue 3...

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Postby doombug » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:59 am

thefourthman wrote:actually Image has FOC, we should see adverse affects corrected at issue 3...


What's FOC stand for again? :?

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Postby Punchy » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:14 am

Image United #1(of 6) - 'Chapter One' - Kirkman, Larsen, Liefeld, McFarlane, Portacio, Silvestri and Valentino

Story - Um.... yeah, so... there's not actually that much story to talk of in this book really. Much like the original Image Comics, this book is a triumph of art over story, as much as Robert Kirkman's work on Invincible and Walking Dead has attempt to spearhead Image in the direction of putting the writer first, his role here is pretty much secondary to the fun experimentation of seeing the various Image Founders jam together. Kirkman is in full-on old-school Marvel/DC summer crossover mode here. There is a mysterious threat attacking the whole world, and all our heroes must band together and yaddayaddayadda. You've even got this Fortress dude basically being Harbinger.

I think the problem here is that unlike Marvel or DC crossover events, where the reader has years of context for shared continuity and love for the characters, that's not here for Image. Image has pretty much never had a shared universe, bar the occasional cameo, Savage Dragon is off on it's own, Spawn is off on it's own, and as such, I don't feel much connection to the characters. It's actually off-putting to see these characters together again, I'm not used to it. But then again I'm not much used to the original Image books on the whole. I've never read Spawn, never read Savage Dragon, never read Cyberforce or Witchblade. The only books I have any knowledge of are Liefeld's, mainly due to Alan Moore and also Joe Casey's run, and Valentino's Shadowhawk, who's relaunch I read back in 2004, and enjoyed. Oh yeah, and I suppose since Fortress is new (Portacio's original creations Wetworks are owned by Wildstorm now) I know who he is.

This book can be mainly seen as a nostalgia trip, and since I was 3 or 4 when Image launched, and by the time I'd got into comics the original founders had pretty much all stopped working on their original creations, gone back to Marvel or whatever, and Image was now the premier creator-owned company, pushing the boundaries of comics, not just ripping off X-Men again. This is not necessarily the book's fault, if I had been a few years older, I would have grown up with these characters, and would probably love this book. It's just my parent's bad timing!

Overall, this is an OK debut issue, some kind of plot is set up with 'The Omega Spawn' and Kirkman manages to come up with some interesting ways for the various heroes to interact, but it still feels light. We are told that the whole world is under threat, but we only see 2 examples, it's telling, not showing and Kirkman should do better than that. But we're not really reading this book for Kirkman are we? His role here is just to facilitate the fanboyish fun of seeing all these classic (are they classic? probably) characters teaming up. And on the whole I think he succeeds, especially in allowing the art to flow and let each artist strut their stuff. Maybe his own voice will come into the book later on, I'm certainly enjoying myself enough to continue.

Art - The art is the main hook here, and it's no surprise that Robert Kirkman's writing is not too important. Image United is a unique book in terms of artwork, with each of the Image founders drawing their own creations, whether hero or villain on the same page. So you can have a Liefeld Badrock punching the shit out of a McFarlane Overt-Kill while a Larsen Savage Dragon looks on. And I think on the whole it works very well. It's disconcerting at first, but since Liefeld, Portacio and Silvestri all have similar styles, they all mesh well. Erik Larsen's blockier more traditional work is the biggest departure, but still, that's part of the fun. I will say that I thought this issue was maybe a little Larsen, Liefeld and Portacio centric, with Silvestri, McFarlane and Valentino not really having that much to do, but I suppose that's Kirkman, it's not a book that is trying to massage egos by giving everyone equal treatment, if Shadowhawk only needs to be in the story for 2 pages, so be it. I have my own preferences for which artists are the best separately, but these personal preferences only make the read more interesting, you have a page featuring an artist I dislike, one I am ambivalent towards, and one I really like... it's novel, and I like it.

Image United is a different experience, and at first it's distracting, but after a while you sort of forget that each character is drawn differently, I feel it works a lot better than it probably should, and just hope that the notoriously slow Founders can keep up the pace.

Best Line - 'Good "Team-Up". Let's not do this again any time soon' Savage Dragon shows why it's weird seeing these characters together.

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Postby Chubbles » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:50 am

a 7!!!! a freaking 7!?!?

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Postby Punchy » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:03 am

Chubbles wrote:a 7!!!! a freaking 7!?!?


A fucking 7.

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Postby Old Man » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:45 am

doombug wrote:What's FOC stand for again? :?


Final Order Cutoff. It's about 21 days before the issue is due on the shelf.
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Postby Old Man » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:47 am

Punchy wrote:
I was 3 or 4 when Image launched



Well, that certainly explains a lot. :P
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Postby Old Man » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:48 am

Chubbles wrote:a 7!!!! a freaking 7!?!?


I'm feeling worse every day about my six. As Punchy usually rates a book 2 points higher than I do, perhaps I should change my 6 to a 5. :?:
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