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Review Group Week 214 - IRREDEEMABLE #12

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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:48 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:You and Twig do not count as people, you're British.


People other than me and Twigg like it.
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:00 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:You and Twig do not count as people, you're British.

I like it, a lot actually.
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:00 pm

I haven't bought Spider-Man since OMD.

******

Postby ****** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:00 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:You and Twig do not count as people, you're British.


Last time we reviewed it scored over a 9.
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48THRiLLS

Review Grouper

Postby 48THRiLLS » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:02 pm

ASM is fine... Nemisis would have been rad!
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Dragavon

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Postby Dragavon » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:41 pm

48THRiLLS wrote:ASM is fine... Nemisis would have been rad!

I hated Millar's Old Man Logan. There was no way I was going to pick Nemesis. Besides this is FVL and he is awesome!
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Dragavon

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Postby Dragavon » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:44 pm

Besides the two issues of Amazing that we have reviewed have both been by Kelly.
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48THRiLLS

Review Grouper

Postby 48THRiLLS » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:47 pm

Dragavon wrote:I hated Millar's Old Man Logan. There was no way I was going to pick Nemesis. Besides this is FVL and he is awesome!

:smt011
OML was the shit!
No worries about your pick, I chose Marvel Apes once.
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Eric Ratcliffe

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Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:02 am

amlah6 wrote:Dragavon's pick for next week is...

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Amazing Spider-Man #626
selected by Dragavon[/center]WRITER: Fred Van Lente
PENCILS: Michael Gaydos

Hiya, Retailers, Fred Van Lente here to tell you we could never let "The Gauntlet" get by without the return of another classic Spider-Man foe...THE SCORPION! She has brand new powers, a new modus operandi, and you won't believe her reason for tangling with Spidey-- Hm, what? Yes, we said "she." Why? Who did you think we meant? 32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99


Can I tell you just how much this weeks issues broke my fucking heart as a reader, towards the end it got really tough to get through.

Poor Rhino. :cry:

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Postby ****** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:02 am

48THRiLLS wrote:I chose Marvel Apes once.


Jerk! :x
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:38 am

amlah6 wrote:Jerk! :x

I liked Marvel Apes for like two issues, then it was worthless.

3MJ

Postby 3MJ » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:45 am

I don't even like/read ASM!

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Postby ****** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:47 am

thefourthman wrote:I liked Marvel Apes for like two issues, then it was worthless.


Jerk! :x
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thefourthman

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Postby thefourthman » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:52 am

Jubilee wrote:I don't even like/read ASM!

shut up! like it! read it! it is your duty as slave to Punchy!
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:19 pm

Irredeemable #12 - Untitled - Waid, Krause and Barreto

Story - Mark Waid's Irredeemable is probably the Indie success story of 2009, it's dark and vicious take on various DC archetypes, in particular a crazed Superman has been a lot of fun. Waid knows enough so much about Superman, that it's a joy to see someone with so much passion undercutting and making his hero into a villain. I've particularly enjoyed how Waid has built the Universe, through flashback, and also through companion book Incorruptible, the Irredeemaverse is a fantastic addition to comics.

Which is why it's annoying that this week's issue isn't exactly the best we've seen, and is quite disappointing. There are still strong elements, but I wasn't feeling it like usual. I think much of that comes down to the scenes involving the Paradigm (the JLA) fighting Orian, a big grey demon. The majority of these characters have not been particularly well-developed, and when it comes to a character like Bette Noir, who is really central here, who's analogue isn't especially apparent (a bit of Black Canary? A bit of Hawkgirl? Huh?), it's hard to care about her. The scenes where she breaks down and admits to some great crime (I'm, not quite sure what it is, not telling everyone about that magic candle? Or is the big reveal still to come? I didn't really care. Cary's heel turn is also annoying me, as is the Government's involvement, let's get back to the core of the book and have the Paradigm fight the Plutonian!

Things are better on the Plutonian side of things however. Tony really is a fascinating character, I love seeing his thought process, he's just so fucked-up, but you can also see where he's coming from in a way. What he does to his adopted family is just shocking. I'm also interested by the Samsara/Modeus plotline, Waid has handled this very well, very subtly, and I can't wait to see what happens.

So, this was only really a half-decent issue of Irredeemable, the Paradigm scenes were disappointing, but the Tony stuff was just as good, if not better than what came before. But every issue of this book is part of the wider tapestry, and you can't really discount this issue, he could become retroactively awesome. Who knows? I was a huge fan of JMS and Gary Frank's sadly abandoned Supreme Power, and Irredeemable continues to fill that gap for me, I enjoy it every month, and while this issue was a little bit of a let-down, the book is still very much worth picking up.

Art - The art is also a game of two halves this issue, the first 12 pages are drawn by Barreto, and his work is adequate, but lacks polish, once Peter Krause steps back in, things improve, along with the story. Krause really is a good fit for this book, his style is clean and classic, perfect for contrasting what Superman analogues should be, with what Irredeemable is. It's a shame he's been falling behind and not been able to pencil the entirety of each issue, but hey, Barreto is OK really.

Best Line - 'Cheerio'

6.8/10

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