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Review Group Week 234 - BALTIMORE: THE PLAGUE SHIPS #1

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:05 am

Baltimore: The Plague Ships #1

I'm a big fan of the Mignola-verse comics. Over the past 2 years I think I've read pretty much everything but the novels. As a result, I'm as clueless as everyone else when it comes to Lord Baltimore. If he was mentioned in Hellboy or B.P.R.D. I don't remember it.

This issue feels more like a second issue than a first. You're dropped into the action and it's a nice comic on it's own, but it lacks the context to make the reader understand or care about the whos or whys regarding the events. While this issue hasn't put me off reading the eventual trade, this comic does seem to have the expectation that the reader has already read the novel.

I didn't love Ben Stenbeck's art on the recent Witchfinder series, but he's made a big jump with Baltimore. His storytelling has improved and the book has a nice flow in both the action and talking head sequences. Dave Stewart's colors are brilliant as always and are a huge part of defining the look of all the Mignola books.

Story: 6
Art: 9
Overall: 7.5

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:09 am

oogyboy wrote:I have this sitting in my box at the LCS and I can't decide whether or not to get it. It sounds like a cool idea, but I haven't read the novel and don't want to comie into the middle of a story.

I've read the reviews posted so far, but they haven't helped me make up my mind yet. Would you guys say buy it or pass on it?


If you dig the other Mignola books, I would say buy it.

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:09 am

starlord wrote:do we know what next week is yet?


I've sent Dragavon a PM and he has read said PM, so hopefully he announces a pick today.
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Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:54 am

Eli Katz wrote:It's all Hab's fault. He accused us of engaging in petty, fanboy bitchfests, and now we're all too afraid to make posts.


I think honestly it's best to just ignore Hab--either figuratively or literally. And when it comes to bitching, have you actually read any of Hab's posts lately?! Bitchy posters complain about RG bitchiness like we're infringing on their trademarked schtick or something.
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Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:57 am

You guys have all hit on its biggest weakness--if it's so similar to HB and BPRD, why not jusr buy those books instead? They've both been peppering the market with books lately, this book looks worse by comparison of how similar they all are.
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Postby Eli Katz » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:28 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:I think honestly it's best to just ignore Hab--either figuratively or literally. And when it comes to bitching, have you actually read any of Hab's posts lately?! Bitchy posters complain about RG bitchiness like we're infringing on their trademarked schtick or something.

You guys are all Outhouse MVPs and you know it!

Usually, I don't post in the same threads as he does. So, fortunately, I haven't noticed.

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:56 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:You guys have all hit on its biggest weakness--if it's so similar to HB and BPRD, why not jusr buy those books instead? They've both been peppering the market with books lately, this book looks worse by comparison of how similar they all are.


It was different enough for me. It doesn't have the epic feel of Hellboy or the ensemble cast of B.P.R.D. When I was reading it, it reminded me of Black Coat and Marquis as much as it did the other Mignola books.

Besides, Dark Horse publishing 2-3 books in this universe isn't anywhere near as boring or repetitive as the 80-100 virtually identical books that Marvel and DC pump out every month.
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Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:38 pm

John Snow wrote:It was different enough for me. It doesn't have the epic feel of Hellboy or the ensemble cast of B.P.R.D. When I was reading it, it reminded me of Black Coat and Marquis as much as it did the other Mignola books.

Besides, Dark Horse publishing 2-3 books in this universe isn't anywhere near as boring or repetitive as the 80-100 virtually identical books that Marvel and DC pump out every month.


Who said it was? Why bothering bringing Marvel & DC into it, besides you know I buy virtually none of their books at the moment. The disappointing Hickman books were about it, I think, and they're dropped.

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:43 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:Who said it was?


I wasn't saying you said it, I just like calling Marvel and DC shit because they are.

Do you want the thread to be bitchy or not? :?
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Postby GLX » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:47 pm

Dragavon needs to make his pick. :x
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Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:50 pm

John Snow wrote:I wasn't saying you said it, I just like calling Marvel and DC shit because they are.

Do you want the thread to be bitchy or not? :?


I don't think I can go 30 pages on this one right now. Besides, we both had a lot of the same observations about this comic and our scores are less than 1 point different for Chrissake.

My point is that I like Hellboy or BPRD better, and even they get pretty samey sometimes with their paranormal plotlines. I felt the same way about the recent Abe Sapien 2 part comic.

I guess all the cashing in on the vampire fad weighs into it too--we aren't all as Twihard as you for vampires anymore! <--Bitchy!
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Postby Eli Katz » Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:55 pm

John Snow wrote:I wasn't saying you said it, I just like calling Marvel and DC shit because they are.

Do you want the thread to be bitchy or not? :?

I like the bitchy tone.

But since you still read and defend SHIELD, I think your bitchiness lacks the discerning taste of my bitchiness.

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:08 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:I don't think I can go 30 pages on this one right now.

My point is that I like Hellboy or BPRD better, and even they get pretty samey sometimes with their paranormal plotlines. I felt the same way about the recent Abe Sapien 2 part comic.


Samey doesn't bother me as long as it's good samey. Could be a benefit of trade waiting, I just started Hellboy in singles but B.P.R.D. I'm only getting new material once every 4-6 months so the risk of burnout for me is much lower than someone reading everything as it comes out.


I guess all the cashing in on the vampire fad weighs into it too--we aren't all as Twihard as you for vampires anymore! <--Bitchy!


Other than 1946/47, vampires haven't really played a big part in Hellboy/B.P.R.D.

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Postby ****** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:09 pm

Eli Katz wrote:I like the bitchy tone.

But since you still read and defend SHIELD, I think your bitchiness lacks the discerning taste of my bitchiness.


You not liking SHIELD just indicates that the full extent of my bitchiness went over your head.
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Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:10 pm

John Snow wrote:Other than 1946/47, vampires haven't really played a big part in Hellboy/B.P.R.D.


Again, I wasn't saying they do or don't, I'm saying on a broader cultural level vampires are overdone at the moment.

Besides, we both pointed out a lot of the same things about the comic and our scores are less than 1 point different--the lack of novelty in Lord Baltimore is one reason I didn't score it any higher.

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