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[Victorian Squid]

Don't bring Loeb into this!

Why not? This was bad writing, he's a bad writer...

[Punchy]

Why not? This was bad writing, he's a bad writer...

Fraction is leagues ahead of Loeb.

[Victorian Squid]

your argument is he is a plant?
what the hell did I miss in those Loeb issue of Wolverine?

You should read those, they were epic.

[Victorian Squid]

Fraction is leagues ahead of Loeb.

Just give him time, some people like to defend Loeb's earlier work.

[Victorian Squid]

Dammit, come back! If we can keep this up for another 90 pages or so maybe it'll get its own forum!

How 'bout this: Nightcrawler is the son of the Devil! Wolverine is a lupine! Charles Xavier should be the new Stilt Man! I'm glad Kitty is lost in space! Gambit is still one of the dumbest mutants ever! In fact, most of the mutants created after 1988 are dumb! Emma Frost is overdue for a pedicure! Banshee had it coming for years!

[GLX]

This was alright. The writing did nothing much, but throw in some potentially cool stuff. The art was okay. A bit off, but okay.

7* out of 10*

[Victorian Squid]

This was alright. The writing did nothing much, but throw in some potentially cool stuff. The art was okay. A bit off, but okay.

7* out of 10*

Your avatar is cracking me up.

[GLX]

Your avatar is cracking me up.

It has that effect on people.

[Daringd]

Utopia (One-shot): Fraction/Silvestri Marvel $3.99
I’m so glad my LCS manager told me to read Uncanny first. I couldn’t wait to pick this book up. Everything works here. Fraction gives us a very “old” concept but does great work with it. This riot has caused a lot of problems. Norman Osborn really comes off as a manipulator here. More than any book he’s in this week. Sure he came off Evil in Spidey and to me at least a control freak in Dark Avengers. But this book shows how smart Norman is and how he plans for everything. He is a perfect foil a perfect villain for the Marvel universe. I loved Silvestri’s art here. It was slick it was a perfect fit. If Fraction can keep this up. I think he can especially with how he ended it. This event could be better than Messiah Complex which is to me the best X-men cross over/story in the past 10 years on X-men. Fraction is the best thing to happen to the X-men in a very long time. I can’t wait for the next part of this story.
9.6/10

[******]

Dammit, come back! If we can keep this up for another 90 pages or so maybe it'll get its own forum!

We had a secret forum, but it made recruitment something of a challenge.

[******]

In a capacity so minor, I fished these out of a 50 cent bin and don't even remember them. In the wiki SI page, the X-Men aren't mentioned as main characters nor is their role mentioned in the plot synopsis. And no one bothered to write one for their mini, why bother?

I got the SI: X-Men mini cheap in a ebay bundle and thought it was decent. Their role in the main SI series was virtually non-existent but in their mini they prevented the Skrull invasion in SF in a pretty kickass way so they should have a good profile in the bay area at the moment.

[******]

Don't bring Loeb into this!

Hear hear! I didn't read it so it didn't happen.

[******]

Fraction is leagues ahead of Loeb.

Loeb's reputation may have taken a few hits in the last couple of years, but Fraction's got a ways to go before he does anything that compares with the work Loeb has done with Tim Sale over the years.

[******]

Just give him time, some people like to defend Loeb's earlier work.

Just those of us who have actually read it.

[Kerny]

Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-men: Utopia #1


I haven't been reading Uncanny, but thats ok as the problem for the x-men here is the same one they have had before and may always have: humans don't like em'. Things get out of hand and people start to riot. Enter Norman Osborn and the Dark Avengers.

Fraction writes all the different characters well, especially the DA. He quickly jumps around to a different scenario, which is kinda neat, and a fault against the book both at the same time. I look forward to the Venom vs Collous errr Big Metal Russian Guy fight, as I am a sucker for all things Venom. Ares also has some badass lines. Some of the lesser known X-men didn't have thoher se description boxes and that kinda bugged me as I didn't know them or couldn't place who they were at first glance.

The act that the humans propose in this story is obviously a IRL parallel and I don't have a problem with it, as I've always seen the X-men used in these type of scenarios.

The cliffhanger was intriguing and a bit predictable but should set up a good crossover.

The art is terrible. I usually like Silvestri, but not Silvestri and 14 or however many assists he had. It's just all too stylized and characters can change appearances with a turn of a page. Also why was Loki a man!?

Story: 6.5
Art: 4