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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby Benderbrau » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:33 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:
*cough*AlPratwasTheAtombeforeRayPalmer*cough*

So?
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby SilverPhoenix » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:38 pm

Benderbrau wrote:So?


So when does a Legacy Hero stop being a legitimate way to make a new one? Because a Person of Color becomes one? (Note: I am not accusing you of saying this, Bender.)

Should they all be legacies? No

But if one or two of them are, is that a bad thing? Also No.

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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby Benderbrau » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:45 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:
So when does a Legacy Hero stop being a legitimate way to make a new one? Because a Person of Color becomes one? (Note: I am not accusing you of saying this, Bender.)

Should they all be legacies? No

But if one or two of them are, is that a bad thing? Also No.

I just think that making minorities into heroes that were formally white does not elevate the minorities in comics like the publishers may be thinking. In fact IMO it actually reduces them because the question becomes: are people reading the Atom because he's Asian or are they reading the Atom because of their fond memories of the Atom they knew? IE Ray Palmer and Al Pratt. Both of whom were white? So what you have is a Asian character that is just piggy backing on the fame of a white character. If I was a minority I wouldn't find that flattering.
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby rdrsfn82 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:49 pm

Jaime is a great Blue Beetle that replaced another great Blue Beetle and I didn't read his book because of a love of Ted.

Jason is a cool Firestorm. Not just because of the previous Ronnie version, but on his own as an interesting character.

Nothing wrong with legacy heroes passing on their titles to minority characters.
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby Zechs » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:54 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:Jaime is a great Blue Beetle that replaced another great Blue Beetle and I didn't read his book because of a love of Ted.

Jason is a cool Firestorm. Not just because of the previous Ronnie version, but on his own as an interesting character.

Nothing wrong with legacy heroes passing on their titles to minority characters.


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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby doombug » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:44 am

Hell fucking yes! 8)
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby Potter Who » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:24 am

Hopefully we see some of the Ivy U supporting cast as well.

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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby MrBlack » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:40 am

e_galston wrote:From the JLA panel:

Asked about increasing diversity—particularly, "where are the Asians?"—Wallace said that diversity did not have to only mean heroes, but "diverse people." "When you look at the world around them, it's populated by" people of every color and orientation. He added that there would be an Asian hero debuting in "Mr. Terrific."

Lee added that "there's a character in Justice League—a very small character—rhymes with 'Batom.'"

If Ryan Choi is in Eric Wallace's Mr. Terrific, it will certainly make up for the fact that Wallace killed him in Titans.

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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby mrorangesoda » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:48 am

MrBlack wrote:If Ryan Choi is in Eric Wallace's Mr. Terrific, it will certainly make up for the fact that Wallace killed him in Titans.


Sounds like the Mr. Terrific character is new, though. Atom sounds like a second thing. (I don't want Wallace anywhere near Choi).

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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby SaturnKnight » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:49 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:
So when does a Legacy Hero stop being a legitimate way to make a new one? Because a Person of Color becomes one? (Note: I am not accusing you of saying this, Bender.)

Should they all be legacies? No

But if one or two of them are, is that a bad thing? Also No.

Agreed. Well said.
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby SaturnKnight » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:50 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:Jaime is a great Blue Beetle that replaced another great Blue Beetle and I didn't read his book because of a love of Ted.

Jason is a cool Firestorm. Not just because of the previous Ronnie version, but on his own as an interesting character.

Nothing wrong with legacy heroes passing on their titles to minority characters.

This. Quoted for truth.
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby e_galston » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:05 pm

MrBlack wrote:If Ryan Choi is in Eric Wallace's Mr. Terrific, it will certainly make up for the fact that Wallace killed him in Titans.


in lee's spotlight panel he said Ryan is the Atom in Justice League..
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby blah » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:13 pm

Dragavon wrote:According to DC, it does. There is only one Batman, one Atom, one Firestorm, etc.


There is only one Batman in the new universe?

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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby guitarsmashley » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:24 pm

it sucks that they're doing this now instead of letting Rick Remender keep writing Atom he told me some of his atom plans a few years ago, that book was going places.
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Re: Ryan Choi Back As Atom?

Postby chap22 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:42 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:it sucks that they're doing this now instead of letting Rick Remender keep writing Atom he told me some of his atom plans a few years ago, that book was going places.

I have never disagreed with you more. Remender's Atom was fucking AWFUL.

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