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Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:14 am

Well this sucks.

How much is adequate spoiler space to beat the thread preview?

edit appears not, well if you see the thread title and decide to hover over it then it's on you not me.


Eric O'Grady aka Ant Man is killed by having his throat crushed and head stomped on repeatedly by one of those adaptoid things.

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby doombug » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:20 am

And yet, there's a giant man still running around live and well on those covers the next few months.

While I'm bummed if it's true...my Scott Lang theory could still come to fruition.
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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Punchy » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:28 am

doombug wrote:And yet, there's a giant man still running around live and well on those covers the next few months.

While I'm bummed if it's true...my Scott Lang theory could still come to fruition.


That Giant Man is Hank Pym.

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby doombug » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:32 am

Punchy wrote:
That Giant Man is Hank Pym.

Let me live my delusion! :smt013 :lol:

I really am sad to see Eric go though, everything that character has been through he deserves better than that. He was becoming the hero/role model to the son/daughter he was going to be having.

And while I love Clint, does that mean he just got him killed?
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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:46 am

doombug wrote:Let me live my delusion! :smt013 :lol:

I really am sad to see Eric go though, everything that character has been through he deserves better than that. He was becoming the hero/role model to the son/daughter he was going to be having.

And while I love Clint, does that mean he just got him killed?


Well in a way he screwed up again......

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Cap gave him Agent venom aka Flash Thompson with the symbiote doped up enough for Flash to control and Clint basically told him to get lost and that he didn't need his help despite the team getting seriously owned last issue and again.

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:50 am

Clint is a shitty leader and even a shittier character.

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Punchy » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:07 am

doombug wrote:Let me live my delusion! :smt013 :lol:

I really am sad to see Eric go though, everything that character has been through he deserves better than that. He was becoming the hero/role model to the son/daughter he was going to be having.

And while I love Clint, does that mean he just got him killed?


I actually think it's better he die than become a full-fledged hero, whatever happened to him being 'Irredeemable'? He's meant to be a jerk, that was his hook, if his character changes anymore, he won't be Eric O'Grady.

Of course, there is going to be an Ant-Man in Defenders, so who knows who that will be?

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Zechs » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:33 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:Clint is a shitty leader and even a shittier character.


You know what? I'm jumping on the BubbaKanoosh Anti-Hawkeye bandwagon.
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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby sdsichero » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:38 pm

Zechs wrote:
You know what? I'm jumping on the BubbaKanoosh Anti-Hawkeye bandwagon.


Poor Bubba.
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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Rockman » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:08 pm

Punchy wrote:
I actually think it's better he die than become a full-fledged hero, whatever happened to him being 'Irredeemable'? He's meant to be a jerk, that was his hook, if his character changes anymore, he won't be Eric O'Grady.

Of course, there is going to be an Ant-Man in Defenders, so who knows who that will be?


character growth?

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Punchy » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:26 pm

Rockman wrote:
character growth?


Is not always a good thing.

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby IvCNuB4 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:30 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:Clint is a shitty leader and even a shittier character.


Maybe, but at least he's smart and tough enough to not let someone stomp him to death :lol:
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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby doombug » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:03 pm

Zechs wrote:
You know what? I'm jumping on the BubbaKanoosh Anti-Hawkeye bandwagon.

and I'm sure Bubba is wishing you didn't. :lol:
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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Rockman » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:07 pm

Punchy wrote:
Is not always a good thing.


I disagree, if you're going to follow a character they need to change over time as a result of their experiences. Part of the reason I liked Remender's X-force was because he chose to treat deadpool as an actual character rather than a joke who never changes.

Ant-man was a pretty one-note joke and it was nice to see him grow a bit.

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Re: Secret Avengers #23 (death spoilers)

Postby Dragavon » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:34 pm

doombug wrote:and I'm sure Bubba is wishing you didn't. :lol:

Zechs needs to be on the winning side at least once in his life.

But Bubba has been right all along in how much of a waste of space Hawkeye is. The last .1 issue of Secret Avengers and issue #4 of Avenging Spider-Man showed all that.
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