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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby holtom2000 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:15 pm

Punchy wrote:FFS, only on Friday Diggle was still doing interviews about the book on CBR.

What the hell are DC doing that they need to change creators before books even come out?

I finally now know what ffs means

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:19 pm

Jubilee wrote:Hahahaha.

I hope the big 2 monopoly ends soon. They're ridiculous. Good to see another writer step away. Indie comics are really on the up. Ill be glad when marvel and DC are a thing of the past.


Don't lump Marvel in with this shower!

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:21 pm

GHERU wrote:maybe we can get Doug Moench!

dude, be serious...

Moench is WAY too good a writer to be on Harras's rolodex radar.
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Zechs » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:29 pm

nietoperz wrote:I keep saying this:

Bob Harras essentially destroyed Marvel for the better part of the 90s. The company was only pulled out of the doldrums when Quesada was given the EiC job. So he goes to DC and guess what: the company is fucked. They have managed to piss away every tiny bit of momentum that the DCnU brought in, and have pulled off the feat of alienating new and old time fans alike.

As Scoot says, if they lose Snyder they're fucked. Everything else is a shit sandwich right now, from top to bottom. Their Twitter feed just announced that Constantine was the first ever DC Comics series for the character, for instance: nobody has the first fucking clue about anything there anymore.


HELLO! I've been saying it too. The dude gave us the freaking Crossing and pissed off numerous artist/writers who worked on Spider-Man and X-Men books. They so need to axe him because obviously history is repeating itself in a more grander scale now.
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Jack Burton » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:39 pm

I think regardless of Snyder DC is entirely fucked right now. Two good books(Batman and Wonder Woman) can not keep them alive.

Especially when one of those books is Wonder Woman. I like Wonder Woman as a character but she's hasn't been a big selling character in forever.

They need to fire Harras and fucking quickly. Find an out of the box GOOD replacement like Marvel did with Quesada years ago.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby PDH » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:48 pm

:lol:

DC suck so hard right now. They've got a few people here and there doing some really interesting things but that's largely in spite of their management. The general direction of the big books over which the higher-ups have the most control is 'shitward.' It's headed in a shitward direction.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Zechs » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:48 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I think regardless of Snyder DC is entirely fucked right now. Two good books(Batman and Wonder Woman) can not keep them alive.

Especially when one of those books is Wonder Woman. I like Wonder Woman as a character but she's hasn't been a big selling character in forever.

They need to fire Harras and fucking quickly. Find an out of the box GOOD replacement like Marvel did with Quesada years ago.


Waid. Waid. WAID!!!!
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:48 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I think regardless of Snyder DC is entirely fucked right now. Two good books(Batman and Wonder Woman) can not keep them alive.

Especially when one of those books is Wonder Woman. I like Wonder Woman as a character but she's hasn't been a big selling character in forever.

They need to fire Harras and fucking quickly. Find an out of the box GOOD replacement like Marvel did with Quesada years ago.

seriously DC...it's time to throw the hail mary. just bite the bullet, tuck your tail between your legs, apologize and kiss ass, and throw an obscene (by comic standards) amount of money at Mark Waid. it's pretty much your first, last, and only hope.
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:49 pm

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Waid. Waid. WAID!!!!

just beat me to it, but yep. full agreement.
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby holtom2000 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:52 pm

Do we think waid would restore some things? I would welcome his return btw

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Zero » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:53 pm

Waid would be walking into a bearpit, give it to Johns and watch him fail.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Jack Burton » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:57 pm

I love Mark Waid but I don't think you could get him to run DC if you put a gun loaded with a Kryptonite bullet to Superman's head and a rusty knife to Waid's balls.

I think someone like Stephen Wacker could work though. Although I think he pissed a lot of people off when he jumped ship right?
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Zechs » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:57 pm

holtom2000 wrote:Do we think waid would restore some things? I would welcome his return btw


Waid would bring back Wally and isn't a horrific editor than Harras. Two HUGE plus's right there.
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Zechs » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:58 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I love Mark Waid but I don't think you could get him to run DC if you put a gun loaded with a Kryptonite bullet to Superman's head and a knife to Waid's throat.

I think someone like Stephen Wacker could work though. Although I think he pissed a lot of people off when he jumped ship right?


Yeah both at DC right now would mean major miracles with hell freezing over.
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Zechs...is...

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby 3MJ » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:00 pm

Has Waid shown he can sell a mainstream comic enough to run DC. Sure he appeals to Chap and Zechs but he's not exactly set the sales charts alive has he? Give it someone who sells and who can bring excitement.

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