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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:01 pm

chap22 wrote:Mark Waid:

A & D) -- speaking in terms of pushing the medium, is out in front of the digital movement with his Thrillbent stuff.
B) has handled numerous creators as an EiC before, at BOOM for 3 years.
C) has written everything from Archie to Kingdom Come (one of the highest-selling comics of all time), including high-selling and award-winning runs on Capt. America, FF, Flash, JLA, Daredevil, 52, etc.
D) going to BOOM was quite a risk. Thrillbent is quite a risk

plus the EiC experience factor. any other citeria you want to make up that practically no one currently in comics EXCEPT Waid can meet?

E) Dated Devin Grayson :lol:

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:01 pm

chap22 wrote:Mark Waid:

A & D) -- speaking in terms of pushing the medium, is out in front of the digital movement with his Thrillbent stuff.
B) has handled numerous creators as an EiC before, at BOOM for 3 years.
C) has written everything from Archie to Kingdom Come (one of the highest-selling comics of all time), including high-selling and award-winning runs on Capt. America, FF, Flash, JLA, Daredevil, 52, etc.
D) going to BOOM was quite a risk. Thrillbent is quite a risk

plus the EiC experience factor. any other citeria you want to make up that practically no one currently in comics EXCEPT Waid can meet?

E) Dated Devin Grayson :lol:

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by chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:03 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
E) Dated Devin Grayson

that actually falls under B) "creator-friendly". it also falls under E) "poor life choices". :wink:

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by chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:03 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
E) Dated Devin Grayson

that actually falls under B) "creator-friendly". it also falls under E) "poor life choices". :wink:

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:04 pm

Punchy wrote:
Marvel didn't make those guys quit, they are still on good terms.

I'm surprised he forgot to mention Rucka, if he's trying to make an argument about Marvel alienating creatives

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:04 pm

Punchy wrote:
Marvel didn't make those guys quit, they are still on good terms.

I'm surprised he forgot to mention Rucka, if he's trying to make an argument about Marvel alienating creatives

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by Herald » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:04 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
E) Dated Devin Grayson

So you're saying Waid deserves hazard pay, too... :groucho:

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by Herald » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:04 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
E) Dated Devin Grayson

So you're saying Waid deserves hazard pay, too... :groucho:

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:14 pm

Herald wrote:
So you're saying Waid deserves hazard pay, too...

Yes

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:14 pm

Herald wrote:
So you're saying Waid deserves hazard pay, too...

Yes

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by The Bass » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:22 pm

With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

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by The Bass » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:22 pm

3MJ

by 3MJ » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:29 pm

Nothing wrong with not liking superheroes!

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by 3MJ » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:29 pm

Nothing wrong with not liking superheroes!

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by Herald » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:30 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
Yes

So you didn't get the joke.
That's all you had to say.

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by Herald » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:30 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
Yes

So you didn't get the joke.
That's all you had to say.

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by Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:37 pm

Mark Waid is currently undergoing a critical renaissance as writer of Daredevil and Hulk, he'd be mad to go back to DC right now, he's now 'cool' for the first time in forever.

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by Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:37 pm

Mark Waid is currently undergoing a critical renaissance as writer of Daredevil and Hulk, he'd be mad to go back to DC right now, he's now 'cool' for the first time in forever.

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:38 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

You have a vivid imagination. Current DC editorial micromanages every step of the process. They don't usually give the writers/artists enough autonomy to clash with each other.

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by Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:38 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

You have a vivid imagination. Current DC editorial micromanages every step of the process. They don't usually give the writers/artists enough autonomy to clash with each other.

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by Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:39 pm

Jubilee wrote:Nothing wrong with not liking superheroes!

Yeah, some of the best superhero comics have been written by writers who claim to hate them!

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by Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:39 pm

Jubilee wrote:Nothing wrong with not liking superheroes!

Yeah, some of the best superhero comics have been written by writers who claim to hate them!

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by Arion » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:56 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

I only read Diggle's first Daredevil arc. I wasn't too impressed with it, but he's great writing other stuff, like Snapshot.

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by Arion » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:56 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

I only read Diggle's first Daredevil arc. I wasn't too impressed with it, but he's great writing other stuff, like Snapshot.

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by chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:04 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

he also wrote possibly the best Adam Strange in living memory, so...

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by chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:04 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

he also wrote possibly the best Adam Strange in living memory, so...

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by chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:09 pm

Punchy wrote:Mark Waid is currently undergoing a critical renaissance as writer of Daredevil and Hulk, he'd be mad to go back to DC right now, he's now 'cool' for the first time in forever.

your definition of "forever" is pretty narrow.

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by chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:09 pm

Punchy wrote:Mark Waid is currently undergoing a critical renaissance as writer of Daredevil and Hulk, he'd be mad to go back to DC right now, he's now 'cool' for the first time in forever.

your definition of "forever" is pretty narrow.