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DC Still Treats Women Like Second Class Citizens AKA It's Tuesday

Postby LOLtron » Tue May 07, 2013 2:02 pm

DC Still Treats Women Like Second Class Citizens AKA It's Tuesday

In a move roughly as progressive as Marvel's 1991 Swimsuit Special, DC allocates two pages in their reading guide to all of the female characters in the DCU.



Source: BleedingCool

Another week, another gaffe by DC Comics.  This week's moment in PR stupidity comes from The DC Entertainment Essential Graphic Novels And Chronology 2013, the highly touted catalog showcasing essential comic book collections for bookstores, libraries and readers.  DC's using the catalog to help push their books on the expanding trade market.  According to DC executive John Cunningham, the catalog is also supposed to act as a starting point for retailers and librarians into the world of DC.

Since this is something that DC is heavily promoting, this means that they need to use it to show how little they care about their female characters (and by extension the female fanbase).  While characters such as Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern all merit four or more pages worth of entries in the catalog, the last two pages are dedicated to all the women in the DC Universe.  That's right: DC wants retailers to know that all of its female characters are so important to it, they collectively merit two pages towards the back of the book.

Adding injury to insult, the page features Batwoman and Batgirl fighting each other.  Compare this to the rest of the pages, which feature heroes fighting villains or in heroic poses. 

Now, if this was one isolated accident, I'm sure people would be more inclined to dismiss this as a silly oversight.  But, one would think that after a few months of nearly weekly screw-ups and bad press, someone in the company would think that maybe, just maybe they should give their very public initiative a little more scrutiny to ensure that it won't, I dunno, piss off a very vocal fanbase that has effectively painted their company as a den of sexism and mysogny? 

The saddest thing about this is that characters like the Flash and Green Arrow seem to be held in higher esteem than Wonder Woman, who is probably the world's best known superheroine.  Considering WB is still working on a Wonder Woman TV show (you'll remember the project was delayed by a year to give them more time to cast the main role) you'd think they try to start selling some of those books now.  But hey, the Flash was a TV show like twenty years ago, so it's all good.

Of course, DC's marketing department has better things to do than make sure their big catalog that's being shipped out across the country doesn't smack of sexism.  Like reading second tier comic book websites' critical commentary on them and then deciding to blacklist them.  Or change their black characters into tigers.  Or go see Iron Man 3. 

 

 

 



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Postby Mr. Log » Tue May 07, 2013 2:38 pm

At least DCWKA can't blame The Outhouse for this one.

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Postby Zechs » Tue May 07, 2013 3:05 pm

Log-Man wrote:At least DCWKA can't blame The Outhouse for this one.


Come on now. There's no way she'd blame us for this. This is all on DC.
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Postby Daniel Ashe » Tue May 07, 2013 3:52 pm

The funny thing is that if Marvel put out a guide like this it wouldn't even be able to fill a single page with female protagonists in their own books. Ms. Marvel and 9 volumes of She Hulk that are all cancelled before their time.

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Postby Jack Burton » Tue May 07, 2013 3:55 pm

Really DC?

Of all the Wonder Woman books you reccomend JMS's bland run? Did Greg Rucka kill a 5 year old or something?

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Jack Burton wrote:Really DC?

Of all the Wonder Woman books you reccomend JMS's bland run? Did Greg Rucka kill a 5 year old or something?

no pre-DCnU Catwoman other than When in Rome (srsly...no Bru? no Selina's Big Score? redunkulous)
no pre-DCnU Batgirl (Cass or Steph)
no pre-DCnU WW except JMS (srsly...no Perez or Rucka, or even Simone? redunkulous)
no Birds of Prey AT ALL, DCnU or pre-
no Zatanna AT ALL
no Power Girl AT ALL
no Supergirl AT ALL
no pre-DCnU Huntress


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FBtron wrote:The funny thing is that if Marvel put out a guide like this it wouldn't even be able to fill a single page with female protagonists in their own books. Ms. Marvel and 9 volumes of She Hulk that are all cancelled before their time.


Just to play devil's advocate though, hasn't Marvel always done far better with the female characters in their team books, i.e. Wasp and Storm leading their teams long before DC put a female in charge of anything?

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FBtron wrote:The funny thing is that if Marvel put out a guide like this it wouldn't even be able to fill a single page with female protagonists in their own books. Ms. Marvel and 9 volumes of She Hulk that are all cancelled before their time.

you could throw in Spider-Girl (over 130 issues)
Jess Drew Spider-Woman (50 issues but uncollected)
Firestar mini
bunch of X-chicks with minis (Rogue, Storm, Jubilee, Kitty, Emma, etc)


but other than that, yeah not much
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Re: DC Still Treats Women Like Second Class Citizens AKA It'

Postby Juan Cena » Tue May 07, 2013 4:18 pm

Jack Burton wrote:Really DC?

Of all the Wonder Woman books you reccomend JMS's bland run? Did Greg Rucka kill a 5 year old or something?


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chap22 wrote:you could throw in Spider-Girl (over 130 issues)
Jess Drew Spider-Woman (50 issues but uncollected)
Firestar mini
bunch of X-chicks with minis (Rogue, Storm, Jubilee, Kitty, Emma, etc)


but other than that, yeah not much


You could also throw in Black Widow, Ms. Marvel, and X-23 stuff too. But again yeah that ain't much compared to what DC has over them.
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Postby IvCNuB4 » Tue May 07, 2013 4:48 pm

habitual wrote:Just to play devil's advocate though, hasn't Marvel always done far better with the female characters in their team books, i.e. Wasp and Storm leading their teams long before DC put a female in charge of anything?

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Saturn Girl was made Legion leader in Adventure Comics #304 (1963).
Janet didn't become ChairWoman until Avengers # 217 (1982).
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Zechs wrote:
You could also throw in Black Widow, Ms. Marvel, and X-23 stuff too. But again yeah that ain't much compared to what DC has over them.

well the guy I quoted said Ms. Marvel, and X-23 would obviously be one of the etc's under X-chicks, but yeah, totes my bad on omitting Natasha.
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IvCNuB4 wrote:

Saturn Girl was made Legion leader in Adventure Comics #304 (1963).
Janet didn't become ChairWoman until Avengers # 217 (1982).
Storm didn't even appear until 1975.

if a bear shits in a Legion comic and no one's there to read it, does it really count?
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Postby Black_Orchid » Tue May 07, 2013 4:54 pm

Black Canary has been around in one form or another since 1947 is no where to be seen. I'm trying to think if any other females in the DCU have lasted as long other than Wonder Woman and Lois Lane.

The rest, well I would have been surprised if TPTB at WB gave more than one shit about the major female characters.

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